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Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Sajmon14 2017-04-10 00:27	Mathias98 wrote Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released? Aren't the devs from UK?
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2017-04-09 23:28	Oh, so now it's listed as Made For Game... fantastic. Okay, so I'm trying to prove that it's based on a Jeep: Most cars in the GTA 3 are based on common and well-known vehicles. There's only one SUV in the game, so it's most likely based on something popular. The Jeep Grand Cherokee was one of the most common SUVs in the late 90's US, so the Landstalker is more likely based on it instead of some rare Japanese SUV. Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released? Or the Escape, which was a far less common vehicle? There are only minimal differences.
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-09 22:02	Mathias98 wrote Around 75% of modern Spanish is derived from Latin - Wikipedia I believe French, Portuguese, Italian and English are also largely based on Latin. Your point?
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-09 21:53	Mathias98 wrote And the name of the Infernus is obviously a reference to the Diablo: Diablo=devil (Spanish) Inferno=hell (Latin) You're oversimplifying things. Round and rounded are two different things, just like Spanish and Latin are different languages.
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-09 19:53	You should probably know these comparison pictures are very subjective. It all depends on which lines you decide to draw. The Infernus is very round, like the Vector. The Diablo is very square.
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2017-04-09 19:16	Here's the comparison of the Vector and the Diablo: The rear is quite generic but the shape is much closer to the Diablo than the Vector. The Vector has different shaped door. The windows shape is definitely from the Diablo. The Vector has air intakes on the sides, while the Diablo and the Infernus has not. The cockpit is positioned further forward on the Vector. So, as I said earlier, only the front bumper, the headlights and the spoiler is from the Vector, almost everything else is from the Diablo. -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 23:59:15
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	GamerFIB7590 2017-04-09 17:23	â™£â™ bâ€¢â—˜ wrote Congrats, you're retarded. Congrats, you just got an insta-ban Now PM me on Gmail - Where did you come from? Mars? Jupiter? YouTube spambot (Since YouTube is the homeland of trolls/spambots)? Also this, EXCUSE my aggressor since i still remember there's another provocation user next to uwotm8 (Also seen this comment with the link of page below) uwotm8 wrote Lol you are so autistic -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 17:28:02
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Rinspeed 2017-04-09 15:14	â™£â™ bâ€¢â—˜ wrote Congrats, you're retarded. banned because fake account only for provocation
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	â™£â™ bâ€¢â—˜ 2017-04-09 14:05	Aginnon wrote My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels. Congrats, you're retarded.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-09 13:55	Mathias98 wrote And about the Infernus: the sides, the shape of the windows and the rear is definitely from a Diablo. And furthermore, only 14 Vector M12s were built - so it's unlikely that the person who modeled the Infernus, decided to base it on an almost unknown, extremely rare sports car. Vectors were actually quite popular in 90s Arcade Racing Games, so you'd be wrong to say they are unknown.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Aginnon 2017-04-09 10:21	If this really is a Honda, it must be a CR-V with HR-V wheels.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Aginnon 2017-04-09 10:19	Mathias98 wrote You're wrong, those wheels are from a Fiat Punto: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_537152-Fiat-Punto-188-2000.html My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	K20lover199 2017-04-09 09:48	Mathias98 wrote "This first-generation model (1993–2002) sold in low numbers even domestically in South Korea" -Wikipedia So it's definitely not a Sportage. Just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean that it is not that car. It's not a GC or an Escape. Those are too big and don't have spare tires. I think it's a Freelander/CR-V, but it could also be similar cars listed below. 1997-2001 Honda CR-V 2002 Land Rover Freelander 1993-2002 Kia Sportage 1999-2004 Suzuki Grand Vitara/Chevrolet Tracker I'm not going to force anybody into thinking that it's one of these cars above. If many people agree it should be a GC then change it as you please. Have fun editing it wrong -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 18:44:29
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	GamerFIB7590 2017-04-09 04:43	I'm thinking the 2nd gen Isuzu Trooper, but the problem is the B/C-Pillar is slanted
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	K20lover199 2017-04-09 03:34	Mathias98 wrote It can't be a Freelander, because the first model year was 2002 in the USA. The game takes place in October 2001, so it could be a 2002 model year in 2001. Either that or it could be first gen Honda CRV because of the spare tire. Edit: What about a 1995-2002 Kia Sportage? About the Infernus, the beta version was a Lamborghini Diablo and the final version is a Vector M12. -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 03:36:58
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	K20lover199 2017-04-09 02:54	carcrasher88 wrote How about another possibility... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Second_generation_.28N120.3B_N130.3B_1989.E2.80.931995.29 ...the second generation Toyota 4Runner. If you look at the side of the Landstalker, the rear window is raised up compared to the door windows, like the 4Runner, and the body line marked in red dips down further than the Escape or GC, just like said 4Runner. Then, there's the rear tailgate, license plate, and spare tire...which all actually match the Japanese market (JDM) version, the Hilux Surf. This? A 4runner? HA! This is too big be a 4runner, and the Hilux Surf wasn't sold in the States nor legal to import to America. If you ask ME, then it's either a first gen Land Rover Freelander or a first gen Honda CR-V.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	carcrasher88 2017-04-09 02:08	How about another possibility... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Second_generation_.28N120.3B_N130.3B_1989.E2.80.931995.29 ...the second generation Toyota 4Runner. If you look at the side of the Landstalker, the rear window is raised up compared to the door windows, like the 4Runner, and the body line marked in red dips down further than the Escape or GC, just like said 4Runner. Then, there's the rear tailgate, license plate, and spare tire...which all actually match the Japanese market (JDM) version, the Hilux Surf.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-08 23:44	Mathias98 wrote And now? The headlights are the only thing that matches (except for the photoshopped grille). To be honest, I think the Landstalker looks too old to be either the Grand Cherokee or Escape.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2017-04-08 22:58	Aginnon wrote Intrepid with '85 Mazda RX-7 wheels. Strange, considering a sedan. You're wrong, those wheels are from a Fiat Punto: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_537152-Fiat-Punto-188-2000.html
BMW 5 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2017-04-08 22:58	Aginnon wrote '91 Honda NSX wheels, neat. No, the wheels are from a Honda HR-V: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620248-Honda-HR-V-1999.html
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Aginnon 2017-04-08 12:40	Intrepid with '85 Mazda RX-7 wheels. Strange, considering a sedan.
BMW 5 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Aginnon 2017-04-08 12:37	'91 Honda NSX wheels, neat.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-08 10:58	CarCrazedAlex586 wrote Did you see Mat's comparison chart? Yes
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	CarCrazedAlex586 2017-04-08 00:48	Desscythe17 wrote I don't think it looks like a Grand Cherokee. It's too small to be one, and there are so many shapes on it that don't match. Not sure about it being an Escape either, but it's a better match than the Grand Cherokee. Did you see Mat's comparison chart?
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2017-04-08 00:45	I don't think it looks like a Grand Cherokee. It's too small to be one, and there are so many shapes on it that don't match. Not sure about it being an Escape either, but it's a better match than the Grand Cherokee.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Rinspeed 2017-04-07 23:11	Mathias98 wrote Rinspeed, did you read my last comment before you rejected my edits? yes but as i hadn't other opinion of other admin or old member
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	CarCrazedAlex586 2017-04-05 13:10	#StopRejectingMathias'Edit
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	K20lover199 2017-03-16 00:01	Am I the only one who thinks this is a first generation Honda CR-V?
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	CarCrazedAlex586 2017-03-05 15:12	Mathias98 wrote I posted a picture in December, which proves that it's a Grand Cherokee. I tried to edit it several times, but it was always rejected. But why? Just look at the picture, it's definitely a Grand Cherokee! I forgot to agree, so now we are two people on IGCD thinking about a Grand Cherokee.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Rinspeed 2017-03-05 12:48	Mathias98 wrote No, I'm not. Just look at GrandTheftWiki, which has more accurate information that GTA Wikia: www.grandtheftwiki.com/Landstalker#3D_Universe i say here, not on a lambda wiki
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Rinspeed 2017-03-05 09:17	Mathias98 wrote I posted a picture in December, which proves that it's a Grand Cherokee. I tried to edit it several times, but it was always rejected. But why? Just look at the picture, it's definitely a Grand Cherokee! you are the only one to say that
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2017-03-03 22:23	I think this should be listed as a Lamborghini Diablo. The Vector M12 has completely different taillights, and the shape of the windows are clearly taken from the Lambo, and most importantly, it's called Diablo in the script: gtamodding.ru/wiki/Kenji#kenji2
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2016-12-17 20:21	The Landstalker is not a Ford Escape, but a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ). I made a quick comparison: Except the grille, the spare tire and some other details, it's almost identical. And don't forget, that it was based on a Jeep Wagoneer in VC, SA, and VCS. -- Last edit: 2017-01-19 17:28:16
Toyota Tacoma Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Tuppence870 2016-12-17 19:34	Mathias98 wrote The same pickup (except the glitched headlight) is listed as a '93 Ford Ranger on the LCS page. I tried to edit this one earlier today, but it was rejected. I think this is one of the problems with the site. For example the Toyota Camry in Max Payne 3 was listed as a Renault Encore in GTA V, despite they are identical. Or, one of the Hotring Racers was listed as a Pontiac Grand Prix in GTA San Andreas and IV, but as a Chevy Camaro in Vice City, despite it's the exactly same car. I think people should pay more attention when adding or editing vehicles. Tell me about it. Don't look at the Motor World page if you value your sanity.
Toyota Tacoma Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Mathias98 2016-12-17 19:03	The same pickup (except the glitched headlight) is listed as a '93 Ford Ranger on the LCS page. I tried to edit this one earlier today, but it was rejected. I think this is one of the problems with the site. For example the Toyota Camry in Max Payne 3 was listed as a Renault Encore in GTA V, despite they are identical. Or, one of the Hotring Racers was listed as a Pontiac Grand Prix in GTA San Andreas and IV, but as a Chevy Camaro in Vice City, despite it's the exactly same car. I think people should pay more attention when adding or editing vehicles. By the way, I tried to add the links of the vehicles mentioned above to this comment, but I couldn't post it for some reason.
BMW 5 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	sajmon14 2016-11-04 19:31	I agree
BMW 5 Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Automotive Gaming 2016-11-04 19:19	Shouldn't this be an E34 rather than an E39? www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=180795&d=1239282680 www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10036/vipstylebmw.jpg -- Last edit: 2016-11-04 19:19:39
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Burn Rubber 2016-10-21 22:11	Hakari wrote Does it matter? If a car is listed wrong for 5 years for example, we can't do anything about it? We have a lot of cars listed completely wrong in many less known games, especially from times when not everyone were allowed to edit vehicles. Feel free to discuss any car regardless of addition year. Can we get this comment on IGCD's homepage please? Anyway, I agree with Stratus.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Hakari 2016-10-21 22:06	NismoR35 wrote The fact that this car has been left relatively untouched and fine as it was until now just says it all....... Wow guys, seriously. Does it matter? If a car is listed wrong for 5 years for example, we can't do anything about it? We have a lot of cars listed completely wrong in many less known games, especially from times when not everyone were allowed to edit vehicles. Feel free to discuss any car regardless of addition year.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	NismoR35 2016-10-21 17:50	The fact that this car has been left relatively untouched and fine as it was until now just says it all....... Wow guys, seriously.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Hakari 2016-10-21 15:22	I think 2001 Stratus is a better choice. Only front bumper doesn't match but the rest fits Kuruma pretty well. We can't expect a carbon copy of real life vehicle here.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Burn Rubber 2016-10-21 14:45	Lets get back on the matter at hand. What does everyone agree on? Intrepid, Stratus, or Sebring? Because I don't know what the majority is now.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Renz203 2016-10-21 13:42	As Razor said, STOP THIS DISCUSSION FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!! And people should stop talking about my age...
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Razor440 2016-10-21 13:08	Dear God, it's a freaking Intrepid, can we please leave it be?
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Adrigaaas90 2016-10-21 11:39	Renz203 wrote Does that mean I am getting banned because I'm only 12, I love this site and I'm not ready to leave. Besides, I'm turning 13 at December. I don't mean that, I mean to people that list vehicles randomly and stupidly; motorbikes are a complete mess, and I'm trying to do my best to list them correctly; if the people doesn't know the model; leave it empty or list as unknown like I do. I say not prohibition, but more filters to list vehicles. -- Last edit: 2016-10-21 11:41:54
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Renz203 2016-10-21 09:20	Adrigaaas90 wrote Fully agree bro, too much troll kid. Does that mean I am getting banned because I'm only 12, I love this site and I'm not ready to leave. Besides, I'm turning 13 at December.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	schaefft 2016-10-21 00:34	Just browsing through google images I came across the '01 Stratus when it hit me. The general concave rear styling and shape of the C-pillar are getting as close to that super lowpoly Kuruma model as any car will get. I think most of us agree that the model was largely inspired by Chrysler's full- and midsize sedans around 2000 (when the Kuruma was designed) and definitely are not a Stylus. But I think the general proportions of the car are closer to the Stratus than they are to the Intrepid (it just isn't quite as long/sleek) so the Stratus would be my choice. And btw, amazing that I only noticed that now 2 days after this discussion started again. I expected to dig out a topic from 10 years ago.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Desscythe17 2016-10-20 21:28	It was a joke to be honest. I don't see how you can trust anyone writing a name and an age on a profile. Moreover, there is no way of forcing people to be truthful with this.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	sajmon14 2016-10-20 17:38	Well writing things like "Hi, I'm John and I'm 13 years old" for example isn't really a big deal. I see no point of hiding everything (unless someone has really screwed up something). Adding more info would make some profiles more faithful. For example on many websites I've seen dudes with a flag of USA for example but with completely bad english or people that were telling you that they are old but actually they are under 10 and that was really dissapointing me.
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001)	Burn Rubber 2016-10-20 17:32	Desscythe17 wrote How about a minimum age for becoming a member of IGCD? Because you can't reason with 12 year olds. I agree with that. Every time we get a member like Josemag2016 it makes me loose faith in this website... But, like AG said, every kid can fake it online. and another thing... sajmon14 wrote I'd say that everyone should expand their profile descriptions a bit (at least the age and first name and some basic info) so you'd know who are you talking with Boundaries! I'm not one to go around giving out that sheet... Last thing I need is to be tracked down with minimal info.

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