1995 Toyota Celica GT4



Châssis: ST205

Mk: 6

Catégorie: Voiture de Course

Origine: JP Japon

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2020-08-12 22:45
carknower a écrit

The Celica GT4 was not built to the WRC-car rules,but to the older Group A rules, so it was not a WRC car, but a Group A car. The Celica was replaced by the new Corolla Wrc car in 1997.
The Wrc car rules was introduced in 1997, and meant that the rally cars did not have to look exatcly like their road going counterparts.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica_GT-Four

Actually, I also meant that the racing modified Toyota Celica GT4 from Gran Turismo is a rally car. I know that the WRC rally cars were only introduced in 1997 and the Celica is a Group A car like Lancia Delta Integrale, Ford Escort Cosworth and Subaru Impreza 555.
I had somehow just written down WRC because I generally associated WRC with a rally car...

Ryan2t4 wonder which Toyota Celica GT4 it is. Is it a WRC car (by WRC he probably meant rally car in general and not WRC regulation from 1997) or is it the Super Taikyu car? Then I replied with it is the WRC car, whereas by WRC I generally only meant rally car.

Yes, I know the Celica is not a WRC car from 1997 and still a Group A car, but most people associate the term WRC with rally cars because it is part of the World Rally Championship.

That was of course the Celica in the beginning to the middle of the 90s.

No question, you @carknower you are absolutely correct.
It is wrong, the Celica is NOT a WRC car, but it still often happens that rally cars are associated with WRC.

The Renault Maxi Mégane Kit Car or Seat Ibiza Kit Car are also not WRC cars, but F2 vehicles.
Still, you sometimes read that people write WRC because they simply associate the word WRC with rally cars.

Now that we have cleared it up, we can end the whole thing now.
It was just a little misunderstanding, nothing further :)
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2020-08-12 21:41
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_A
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2020-08-12 21:41
Fisico9798 a écrit
@Ryan2t4 This is definitely the Celica GT4 WRC car.

The Celica GT4 was not built to the WRC-car rules,but to the older Group A rules, so it was not a WRC car, but a Group A car. The Celica was replaced by the new Corolla Wrc car in 1997.
The Wrc car rules was introduced in 1997, and meant that the rally cars did not have to look exatcly like their road going counterparts.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica_GT-Four
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2020-08-12 13:16
@Ryan2t4 This is definitely the Celica GT4 WRC car.
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2020-08-12 12:54
there's 2 possiblities:
1. based on Celica GT4 WRC
2. based on Super Taikyu Celica GT4 (since, it bears similar to WRC variant)