Last completed video game pages

Forza Horizon 4, Racing, 2018



Developer: Playground Games

Publisher: Microsoft Studios

Damageable vehicles: Yes

Tracks or places: view them

PCXBox One


Pictures for this video game were provided by: J-2 , speedfreak975 , solarriors , tunedricer , MartinBond , Attacker1997 , Top Gear Fan , Loek , ALLSETFORMOVE , burninrubber12345 , faultier , Purehell , YourBakedSkoda

All - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - H - I - J - K - L - M - N - O - P - R - S - T - u - V - W - Z

Results pages

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10

IGCD Tests [ Add a Test ]


The average are only displayed when the number of votes has reached 3.
Graphics and Sound
Vehicle ModelingYour Vote :
/10
Average :
6.29/10 (7 votes)
Landscape/Scenery QualityYour Vote :
/10
Average :
7.86/10 (7 votes)
Weather EffectsYour Vote :
/10
Average :
7.14/10 (7 votes)
Damage SystemYour Vote :
/10
Average :
4.86/10 (7 votes)
Sounds EffectsYour Vote :
/10
Average :
5.29/10 (7 votes)
Gameplay
PlayabilityYour Vote :
/10
Average :
6.86/10 (7 votes)
RealismYour Vote :
/10
Average :
5.14/10 (7 votes)
Artificial Intelligence PerformanceYour Vote :
/10
Average :
4.29/10 (7 votes)
Lifespan
Vehicles VarietyYour Vote :
/10
Average :
7.43/10 (7 votes)
Tracks Variety/Map SizeYour Vote :
/10
Average :
6.71/10 (7 votes)
Solo ModeYour Vote :
/10
Average :
5.33/10 (6 votes)
Multiplayer ModeYour Vote :
/10
Average :
3.83/10 (6 votes)


AuthorMessage

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-06-10 22:58

UK this time around!

Loek NL (8)

2018-06-10 22:59

Properly hyped already, can't wait to see the full car list! I hope it's just FM7 + extra's so we can finally use those SUV's...

Klumb3r CL (464)

2018-06-10 23:24

IGCD now has a Discord server

discord.gg/rBtdrbW

-- Last edit: 2018-08-01 09:38:50

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-11 00:00

The game looked incredible im glad we got scotland and UK. 1st open world racer to feature dynamic seasons ?

The map/landscape it looked open open world and massive. this and how xbox ended their brief im ecstatic

-- Last edit: 2018-06-11 00:04:26

STOMPITCRUSHITKILLIT DE (1)

2018-06-11 00:10

J-2 wrote UK this time around!



In one of the posts in GTPlanet has theories that the game was taken place in Hong Kong.

Same happens in the theories of existing Grand Theft Auto 6 in which takes place on Mexico


Here's the video in Spanish which is made by the mexican youtuber Xtalent www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGfbLfnJCzE

Ryan2t4 ID (1)

2018-06-11 01:00

I wondering, what happened to Toyota and Lexus street cars?

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-06-11 01:01

I'm quite sure they are still gone...

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-11 01:11

Purchasable property, character customization, custom race editor...this game is gonna be practically flawless.

It's gonna have about 450 cars, which is 100 more than FH3 had at the start, so that's good.

There's also gonna be something called 'Horizon Stories', which is basically gonna put you into special event opportunities across the map. I take it that this might either replace or go alongside Showcase events, and might explain the huge hovercraft in the trailer.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-11 01:32

Also something that needs clarification; Fulton stated game has "shared world" giving game on online only esque vibe with a 72 player dedicated server replacing drivatars in free play

However the team wants to make it clear its not online only, because they admit online only games are bad . The game can still be played fully offline with drivatars like 3

This is direct quote from PG studios
Always online is a problem for people,” admits principal game designer Mike Brown. “Sometimes you just don’t want to play with other people; sometimes people are just put off by the idea of having to cope with other people.”

“It comes with loads of other problems, such as your internet goes down, you can’t play. Our servers go down; you can’t play. So we solved that problem by saying that Forza Horizon 4 will not be an always-online game. As much as this is a shared-world game, and we believe it’s much better played with other people, you can totally just click a button and play the entire game in single player with Drivatars if that’s your wont.”


-- Last edit: 2018-06-11 01:43:08

mrmundy555 PH (1)

2018-06-11 04:20

This is gonna be crazy.
I really wish that the following to be added:
- Morris Marina coupe
- 1983 Vauxhall Nova
- 1993 Vauxhall Corsa B (chavs were a big part of UK car culture)
- Kia Cee'd
- Peel P50
- LTI Fairway
- 1995 Dodge Neon
- 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix
- Lexus LC 500
- Mercedes Benz ML 63 AMG
- Mercedes Benz ML 350 [W163]
- Fiat Toro
- Mercedes Benz X Class
- 2018 Aston Martin Vantage
- Volvo 242 DL
- Volvo Amazon [P130]
- Citroen C6
- 2019 Chevrolet Colorado
- Fiat 126p
- Lada 2106
- Mercedes Benz X Class
- Tesla Roadster (both generations)
- Mercedes Benz Actros Racing Super Truck
- Nissan Altima [L32]
- Nissan Altima [L31]
- 2018 Dodge Durango
- Genesis G80
- Genesis G90
- 2011 Kia Picanto
- 2008 Audi A4 B7
- 2010 Audi A8 D4
- Infiniti FX35
- Fallout Chryslus Corvega
- AMC Gremlin X
- Alfa Romeo 155 Q4
- 1986 Alfa Romeo GTV6
- 1970 Alfa Romeo Montreal
- Arrinera Hussarya
- Rimac Concept One
- BXR Bailey Blade GT1
- Aston Martin Cygnet
- Aston Martin Virage
- 2002 Volkswagen Touareg [7L]
- 1967 Chevrolet Camaro RS
- Subaru Baja
- Prince Skyline S50 (Gran Turismo 6)
- Mini Cooper S [R50]
- Mini Cooper [R50]
- Mini Cooper JCW [R50]
- 1993 Honda Integra
- 1956 Buick Centurion
- 2008 Chrysler Voyager (EU spec Dodge Caravan)
- Lada 2101
- 1992 Volkswagen Jetta MK3
- 1999 Volkswagen Jetta MK4
- Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1992 Volkswagen Vanagon [Typ 2/T3]
- Volkswagen Thing [Typ 181]
- Citroen Mehari
- Citroen C4 VTS
- Bentley Continental S3 Flying Spur
- 2008 Smart Fortwo
- 2019 Smart Fortwo
- 1972 Lancia Fulvia coupe
- Honda S800 Coupe
- Polestar 1 (yes, Volvo has a performance marque.)
- Mazda RX-7 [FC3S]
- DS 5
- DS 4
- Spada Vetture Codatronca TSS (last seen in FM4)
- Mosler Land Shark
- Arash AF10
- BMW 740i [E65]
- BMW 750li [E38]
- 2015 BMW M3 [F80]
- Marussia B2
- Honda Civic Type R [FK2]
- Subaru Impreza Wagon [GD]
- 1996 Ford Mondeo

-- Last edit: 2018-06-18 06:20:01

tunedricer CN (171)

2018-06-11 04:48

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYqq9Ovz_9c

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-11 05:13

Marina, Nova, Corsa are all possibilities. I'm sure fans are gonna want at least the Marina.

The Cee'd could come back, since it's been in Forza before.

The P50 was in hidden FM7 files discovered a month or two ago, along with the Senna and FX4, so that's pretty much guaranteed to be in.

The Fairway, while interesting, I'm not entirely sure if it would show up...maybe as DLC.

Neon and Grand Prix, probably not. You're more likely to get an SRT-4 and a G-Body GP than those ones in this game.

LC 500 is a no because of Toyota.

The ML63 would be nice to see come back. And, since it does appear in FM7, I wouldn't be surprised if it did. But, if the ML63 shows up, the ML350 likely won't. Maybe one of the new GLE models.

Fiat Toro...probably not. X-Class...it's in The Crew 2, so maybe. MB does seem to want to get the truck as much exposure as possible.

The new Vantage will probably either show up in this from the start, as DLC, or in FM7 first as DLC.

pongmai510 TH (75)

2018-06-11 05:22

This Game Available October 2, 2018

Comfortably Numb RU (111)

2018-06-11 07:38

mrmundy555 wrote This is gonna be crazy.
I really wish that the following to be added:
- Morris Marina coupe
- 1983 Vauxhall Nova
- 1993 Vauxhall Corsa B (chavs were a big part of UK car culture)
- Kia Cee'd
- Peel P50
- LTI Fairway
- 1995 Dodge Neon
- 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix
- Lexus LC 500
- Mercedes Benz ML 63 AMG
- Mercedes Benz ML 350 [W163]
- Fiat Toro
- Mercedes Benz X Class
- 2018 Aston Martin Vantage


I make my list of wishes too. 30 items:
* Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
* Vauxhall Tigra A
* Rolls-Royce Cullinan
* Citroen Xantia
* Citroen C4 I 3dr
* Honda Torneo Euro-R
* Honda Element
* Mazda Proceed Marvie
* Maserati Shamal
* Ford Puma
* 2002 Nissan Murano
* Nissan Murano GT-C
* Nissan Patrol Y60
* Nissan Skyline Sedan R34
* Aston Martin Lagonda
* Lotus Europa S
* Nissan Qashqai 2018
* SVM Nissan Qashqai R
* Lotus Excel
* Mercedes-AMG GT 53 4-Door Coupe
* 1996 Mercedes-Benz CLK 320
* Vauxhall Astra Coupe 888
* Vauxhall Insignia VXR
* Smart Crossblade
* Nissan Primera Camino
* Lancia Musa
* Lancia K Coupe
* Lancia Delta 2011
* Lamborghini 400 GT Monza
* Lamborghini Italdesign Cala

-- Last edit: 2018-06-11 07:41:00

BossMustang EN (12)

2018-06-11 12:05

McLsren 720s is guaranteed to be in. Saw 4 of them being tested outside PG about a week ago.

BossMustang EN (12)

2018-06-11 12:11

Comfortably Numb wrote

I make my list of wishes too. 30 items:
* Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
* Vauxhall Tigra A
* Rolls-Royce Cullinan
* Citroen Xantia
* Citroen C4 I 3dr
* Honda Torneo Euro-R
* Honda Element
* Mazda Proceed Marvie
* Maserati Shamal
* Ford Puma
* 2002 Nissan Murano
* Nissan Murano GT-C
* Nissan Patrol Y60
* Nissan Skyline Sedan R34
* Aston Martin Lagonda
* Lotus Europa S
* Nissan Qashqai 2018
* SVM Nissan Qashqai R
* Lotus Excel
* Mercedes-AMG GT 53 4-Door Coupe
* 1996 Mercedes-Benz CLK 320
* Vauxhall Astra Coupe 888
* Vauxhall Insignia VXR
* Smart Crossblade
* Nissan Primera Camino
* Lancia Musa
* Lancia K Coupe
* Lancia Delta 2011
* Lamborghini 400 GT Monza
* Lamborghini Italdesign Cala


No I will refuse to play with the Cullinan. Its hideous.

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-11 12:27

BossMustang wrote McLsren 720s is guaranteed to be in. Saw 4 of them being tested outside PG about a week ago.

It was already kinda inevitable to me that the 720S was going to be in, since it is coming to Forza 7 in July.

MrBlonde294 DE (0)

2018-06-11 14:04

the only reason to buy a xbox one

konkordski UK (28)

2018-06-11 14:04

BossMustang wrote
No I will refuse to play with the Cullinan. Its hideous.

then i hope they DO add the cullinan.

anyway, i want to see more british in there.
like the lotus carlton, am v8 vantage (the 90's one and the current one), 2019 tvr griffith, any modern mg (hell, even an mg6), vauxhall monaro vxr...

-- Last edit: 2018-06-11 14:16:29

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-11 14:18

I really dont u understand some people online , some like always are nagging its just like 3 with new map and more cars and more features..."doesnt make it new"...im not sure they get how games work

ThePorsche934.5 IL (67)

2018-06-11 15:18

youtu.be/VmQNo8xtcAg First Trailer!

theadmiester UK (0)

2018-06-11 16:16

Ignore the obnoxious commentary, but at 8:48 in this video: youtu.be/m_jK8A5F__A?t=528

There's a little E3 teaser which has a few extra cars shown. 2018 Porsche GT2 RS, McLaren P1, Range Rover SVR, 2017 Bentley SS, Porsche 918, Mercedes A45, BMW i8, and I believe (hard to tell with compression artefacts) the hawkeye Impreza + Evo X.

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-06-11 16:29

Nice find!

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-11 18:35

This time ultimate version includes everything even expansion packs and more. Im guessing they decided finally make ultimate edition own up to its name

Snikle US (0)

2018-06-11 20:30

Since others are doing it, might as well post a wish list of British cars. Most of them will probably not be put in, but hey.

1982 AC 3000ME
1951 Allard J2X
1976 Aston Martin Lagonda (Yes, the weird wedge one)
1997 Bentley Turbo R/T
1949 Bristol 402
1970 Bristol 411
1988 Bristol Beaufighter
1963 Hillman Imp by Zagato
1993 Lister Storm
1990 Lotus Elan
1968 Louts Europa
1970 Marcos 3 Litre
1968 Marcos Mantis (Because why the hell not?)
1989 Panther Solo
1961 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud
1937 Swallow Sidecar SS100
1971 TVR 2500
1979 TVR 3000S
2002 TVR Tamora

And, while not British, I really want to race in a Deusenburg SJ in one of these games.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-11 21:04:07

MTP02 PL (3)

2018-06-11 23:19

I hope Yugo in that game as not a hoax like in Forza Motorsport 7.

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-12 00:31

I'll throw my hat into the ring for cars I'd love to see appear:

- 1983 Reliant Fox pickup
- 1975 Reliant Kitten Estate
- 1961 Pontiac Tempest
- 2017 Kia Soul Turbo
- 1963 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale
- 1954 Ford Thames 300E
- 1972 Subaru Leone 1400RX
- 1972 Cadillac Eldorado
- 1974 Lotus Elite Type 75
- 2001 Nissan Almera Tino
- 1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais Quad 442
- 1998 Bentley Turbo RT

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-06-12 05:30

I hope these cars come in this game:
- 2018 Alpine A110
- Apollo Arrow
- 2018 Audi TT RS
- Aston Martin Vanquish Zagato
- Hennessey Venom F5
- 2013 Jaguar C-X75
- Jaguar F-Type SVR (I still hope it appears in a Car Pack from FM7)
- Land Rover Range Rover Velar
- McLaren 720S (I've heard rumors that this car was made exclusively for PC2, but if it turns out I take the hat)
- Peugeot Onyx
- Rolls Royce Phantom 8
- TVR Tuscan (Last seen on FM4)
- 2018 TVR Griffith
- Vauxhall Monaro VXR (Last seen on FM4)
- Vauxhall VX220 (Last seen on FM4)
- Volkswagen Race Touareg III

-- Last edit: 2018-07-05 21:07:52

cyrus khan PK (0)

2018-06-12 08:59

mrmundy555 wrote This is gonna be crazy.
I really wish that the following to be added:
- Morris Marina coupe
- 1983 Vauxhall Nova
- 1993 Vauxhall Corsa B (chavs were a big part of UK car culture)
- Kia Cee'd
- Peel P50
- LTI Fairway
- 1995 Dodge Neon
- 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix
- Lexus LC 500
- Mercedes Benz ML 63 AMG
- Mercedes Benz ML 350 [W163]
- Fiat Toro
- Mercedes Benz X Class
- 2018 Aston Martin Vantage



Subaru BRZ. Not Lexus LC500.
In fact NFS 2015 had 3 variants FRS, GT86 and BRZ, 3 had same collection of carparts.

Toyota fans shouldn't think that GT86 is not in videogame. I must say that there's Subaru BRZ present in videogame so you can use it as Toyota car as it has same rocketbunny bodykit that gt86 uses.

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-06-12 11:23

cyrus khan wrote


Subaru BRZ. Not Lexus LC500.
In fact NFS 2015 had 3 variants FRS, GT86 and BRZ, 3 had same collection of carparts.

Toyota fans shouldn't think that GT86 is not in videogame. I must say that there's Subaru BRZ present in videogame so you can use it as Toyota car as it has same rocketbunny bodykit that gt86 uses.

Most of the front bumper options are for the 86 so you can get an almost stock looking front bumper for it

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-12 13:07

95% ill end up preordering ultimate edition ; it seems like best deal out of previous forzas as its 1st one to include expansion pass. Hopefully vip cars arnt forza edition cars. I dont really care about double xp and such but considering what happened with FM7 . It will be like FH3

Comfortably Numb RU (111)

2018-06-12 14:32

Hey guys, I soon want to wrote our wishes about cars to Forza and developers' Twitter accounts. Perhaps they add this cars to a upcoming DLC.

Attacker1997 wrote I hope these cars come in this game:
- 2018 TVR Griffith

I was surprised from this comment. I don't knew about TVR return. It's GOOD!!! :love: :beer:

But i think TVR Griifith 2018 is too new from FH4. Appearing in FM8 or FH5 is more possible.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-12 14:36:01

Andra SI (4)

2018-06-12 15:28

If they get their shit together with the PC port this time around, I might consider it. They removed the always-online mode, so that's a start.

yabush1 EN (11)

2018-06-12 16:53

Hate to break it to you, but the game will be either just as online or more so, depending on which features you're talking about.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-12 17:02

On the official pre-order page there are options to pre-order the download version or the disc version but it doesn't say whether the disc version is the Xbox version or not. It probably is but it would be nice to get a PC disc version in my opinion.

Edit: There's no page for the PC version on Amazon yet but on the Xbox page under platform it just says Windows. It doesn't do that on any other Xbox One page

-- Last edit: 2018-06-12 17:08:53

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-06-12 17:58

Comfortably Numb wrote Hey guys, I soon want to wrote our wishes about cars to Forza and developers' Twitter accounts. Perhaps they add this cars to a upcoming DLC.


I was surprised from this comment. I don't knew about TVR return. It's GOOD!!! :love: :beer:

But i think TVR Griifith 2018 is too new from FH4. Appearing in FM8 or FH5 is more possible.

Well, they can make this car show up in a future car pack, although it's difficult, but let's hope it comes soon

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-12 21:58

compass.xboxlive.com/assets/f2/87/f287925d-65d4-4442-a8a9-1830454be52e.jpg?n=ForzaHorizon4_E3PressKit_WM_14_RidingLow_story.jpg

Morgan 3 wheeler ?

Rodrigo BR (56)

2018-06-13 03:38

yabush1 wrote Hate to break it to you, but the game will be either just as online or more so, depending on which features you're talking about.

The game is not always online.

Andra wrote If they get their shit together with the PC port this time around, I might consider it. They removed the always-online mode, so that's a start.

FH3 is Xbox Play Anywhere Title, like FM7, and FH4 will be too. Forza never was always online.

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:57:22 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-13 10:47

A little more details ; there is only one festival site the 10 or so properties you buy act as hub this includes Edinburgh Castle,
An bullying countermeasure has been taken for online (random people will be ghosted if they try to ram you offroad). You can rewind online now (affects you only offcourse) horizon 4 will also have leagues. The game can be completed without doing a single race. People can level up buying taking photography, doing designs . "Streaming" their drives. In other words each player can reach same goal differently. Forzavista is available infront of your properties and drone mode is back

-- Last edit: 2018-06-13 10:50:59

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-06-13 13:27

speedfreak975 wrote A little more details ; there is only one festival site the 10 or so properties you buy act as hub this includes Edinburgh Castle


Like in TDU where you could buy houses and arrange garages?
If this is the casa I am pre-ordering this right now.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-13 13:50

speedfreak975 wrote A little more details ; there is only one festival site the 10 or so properties you buy act as hub this includes Edinburgh Castle

There can't be only one festival site because the one we saw in the gameplay demo was located on a frozen lake. I don't think that would work in summer...

Mark0 wrote

Like in TDU where you could buy houses and arrange garages?
If this is the casa I am pre-ordering this right now.

I hope they're including more features from TDU2, mainly the ability to open/close convertible roofs while driving

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:57:03 (Klumb3r)

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-13 16:41

Zordid wrote
There can't be only one festival site because the one we saw in the gameplay demo was located on a frozen lake. I don't think that would work in summer...


That's probably just a race finish site, it seems they're much more decorated then they were in FH3...

Speaking of the festival site, apparently there's also supposed to be a stunt area near it, with jumps, offroad sections, and even a quarter mile drag strip.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-13 20:15

Basically their explanation why there is only one massive base that includes its own events and activites because this is 1st horizon festival that spawns for multiple
seasons so it has to be stable location . Also justifing houses by the fact that means your character is settling for over a year in England that this is a job (doesnt sound appealing but i spoke about diff ways to level up)

No idea what house will play a role and if we can roam them...some are iconic landmarks so i hope so. But considering they act as hubs for driver and car we will see

Also 72 player dedicated server is divided to 12 or so players each so you wont see 70+ players on same map

-- Last edit: 2018-06-13 20:21:02

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-14 00:03

More details

Drift suspension will be added to the game

More widebody options on cars

Horizon Edition cars will now be called Forza Editions like in FM7

There's a new feature called "Forzathon Shop", which is similar to the perk shop in FH2 / 3. You earn points in Forzathons and then purchase prizes with those points in the shop.

lucario_yee SE (0)

2018-06-15 04:57

List for me:
*Volkswagen Fox
*Citroën DS3
*Peugeot 308
*Vauxhall Viva/Opel Karl
*Seat Ibiza


I just want the imports :)


Edit:
*Alfa Romeo MiTo
*Volkswagen Crossfox
*Honda Fit
*Chevy Matiz
*Renault R.S. 17 if possible
Removed Toyota


Zordid wrote
I hope they're including more features from TDU2, mainly the ability to open/close convertible roofs while driving

Me too. I want a convertible Zonda C and 918.

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:55:13 (Klumb3r)

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-15 05:30

There won't be an option to open/close the roof. In one of AR12's videos with a member of the development team, it was specifically mentioned that the feature would not be in the game.

GamerFIB7590 ID (209)

2018-06-15 06:46

My wishlist:
- Belchfire Runabout
- Bugatti Veyron, but the regular one
- BMW 323ti Compact
- BMW 528i
- Dodge Ram
- Ford RS200
- Caterham Seven
- Icona Vulcano
- Fiat 126
- Chevrolet Caprice
- Nissan Fairlady Z [S30]
- Paramount Marauder
- Volvo Amazon
- Elfin MS8 Streamliner
- Alfa Romeo Disco Volante
- 1969 Dodge Charger
- B Engineering Edonis
- Lada Revolution
- UAZ 469
- 2010 Spada Vetture Sport Codatronca TS (last seen on FM4)
- Hummer H3
- 1886 Benz Patent-Motorwagen
- De Lorean DMC-12
- 1997 McLaren F1 GT
- 1981 AC 3000-ME
- Lister Storm
- Lotus Elan
- Ford Anglia

GamerFIB7590 ID (209)

2018-06-15 06:46

lucario_yee wrote List for me:
*Volkswagen Fox
*Citroën DS3
*Toyota Yaris
*Peugeot 308
*Vauxhall Viva/Opel Karl
*Seat Ibiza

I just want the imports :)


Edit:
*Honda Fit
*Chevy Matiz

Yaris can't be in this game due to the end of the deal between T10 and Toyota/Lexus

RushCars24 ID (49)

2018-06-15 13:16

I've been hyped to see this! (sad, thought not yet having a XBOX One or a higher PC spec this time)

Since everyone here are wishing something coming to the vehicle lineup, thought I would like to join too, first up, vehicles that y'all have already wished to be in-game and I could agreed with you:

2019 Rolls-Royce Cullinan - Yes, Rolls-Royce's first SUV and AWD vehicle. That would a super nice addition to be included in-game. It fits the UK setting perfectly and I would imagine a drag race between the RR Cullinan and the Bentley Bentayga.

2018 Rolls-Royce Phantom VIII - Well, the Dawn and the Ghost are really great Rolls-Royces in Forza, but why if have been the flagship RR Phantom joins the lineup? This is something more what I could expecting to Forza series.

2018 Land Rover Range Rover Velar - Yeah, we have the Levante, we have the Bentayga, we have the F-Pace, but what about the Velar? This is what I like to see.

2018 Mercedes-Benz X-Class - Since there's one in The Crew 2, it might be cool if this mighty Mercedes pickup also appears in here as well.

2017 Audi TT RS - Another The Crew 2 vehicle, would be also cool to see it in here.

2011 Kia Cee'd - Yes, one of Top Gear's Reasonably Priced Car, last seen in Horizon 2 as an AI car. Hope it will come back as playable again.

1997 Ford Puma - A great compact coupe that it must have not forgotten, thought I'd prefer the 1999 Ford Racing Puma better, but this is a good addition to have.

2018 Aston Martin Vantage - Likely, to be released early in FM7 or just instantly released here, both as a DLC, but thought so, might be the best Aston Martin to drive.

1993 Vauxhall Corsa B - Sure that will fit the whole UK car culture perfectly, my opinion to the bodystyle will be the 3-door model.

1972 Subaru Leone 1400RX - Iconic Subarus never die, I picked the 2-door version to be in-game.

1961 Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud - An iconic Rolls-Royce! Yes, I would like to see that too.

2018 TVR Griffith - Ha! I knew this going to be it, since TVR is back, I support this vehicle to be in-game!

2019 Hennessey Venom F5 - Hell yeah, this American hypercar could be the best to fit in there!

2016 Apollo Arrow - Strangely enough, but as seen on pictures, I could debate the Arrow to be in there.

2012 Peugeot Onyx - Seen on Asphalt 8, but a Forza appearance might be also the best move.

1968 Lotus Europa - One can be encountered in Gran Turismo 5, that would be nice too.

2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR - Nice, a Vauxhall vehicle returning from hiatus to get more love, especially the Monaro from FM4. I would like to see the Vauxhall Monaro reappearing the series again.

2005 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo - Another Vauxhall returning? Yes, please.

1976 Aston Martin Lagonda - This good 'ol weird wedge sedan needs some love here, I bet this could fit in UK perfectly.

2016 Icona Vulcano - Yeah, why not? Asphalt 8 was the first to get this, but I want this also in the Forza way...

2017 Kia Soul Turbo - Well, we didn't get some little hatchbacks thought the series by present, but that would be cool for America's favorite box-on-wheels crossover from Korea to be in-game.

1995 Lamborghini Italdesign Calà - That tooks me back to Need for Speed II and now you can possible to have it in Forza. Yes, I would like to see the Calà in Forza.

2001 Nissan Almera Tino - For me, I was supposed to reject this car coming to the game because it's just a boring small MPV, but soon I'd realize, my mind speaks "Hey, wait, why not you just put a Hellcat engine in that thing, beast up to 2000HP and see what happens when you race against to those crazy supercars?". That would be a funny addition to that, just like the 2018 Honda Odyssey in FM7.

2019 Mercedes-AMG GT 53 4-Door Coupe - The sedan version of the AMG GT, this is something what I like to see in there too.


And now, for my wishlist...

2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400
2019 Lamborghini Urus
2017 Tesla Model X
2017 Tesla Model 3
2017 Infiniti Q60
2017 Subaru BRZ
2017 Lamborghini Huracán Performante
2018 Jaguar XE SV Project 8
2018 Mazda 6
2018 Peugeot 508
2018 BMW M5 [F90]
2017 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio
2018 CUPRA Ateca
2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon - Not that one from The Fate of the Furious, but a stock one.
2014 Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged - It got skipped away in FM7, hope it will returned soon.
2009 Alfa Romeo Brera Italia Independent - Last seen in FH2 as an AI car.
2012 Spyker C8 Aileron - Last seen in FM4.
2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS - Last seen in FM4.
2010 Mosler MT900S - Last seen in FM4.
2013 Vauxhall Astra [J] - Last seen in FM6.
2001 Spyker C8 Laviolette
2006 Lotus Europa
1971 Lotus Europa Twin Cam Special
1995 Venturi 400GT
1986 Lancia Thema 8.32
1972 Jensen Interceptor III
1989 MG Maestro Turbo
1994 Rover 620ti
1983 Rover Vitesse [SD1]
1992 Rover 800 Vitesse Coupe [R17]
1992 Rover 220 Turbo Coupe
1995 MG F
2001 MG ZT
2001 MG ZT-T
2001 MG ZS
2001 MG ZR
2003 MG XPower SV
2017 Alpine A110
2018 Audi S5 Sportback
2018 Audi RS5
2018 Audi RS4 Avant
2015 Subaru Levorg
2010 Renault Wind
2019 Mercedes-AMG G63
2019 Volkswagen Arteon
2013 Rimac Concept_One
2019 Genesis G70
2018 Genesis G80 Sport
2017 Genesis G90
2019 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
2018 Renault Mégane RS IV
2018 Honda Jazz/Fit Sport
2019 RAM 1500 Rebel
2018 MINI John Cooper Works Countryman
2015 Nissan 370Z Nismo [Z34]
2017 Suzuki Swift Sport
2019 Kia Cee'd
2019 BMW 8-Series

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:56:22 (Klumb3r)

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-15 13:47

I just want a DeLorean...

carcrasher88 wrote There won't be an option to open/close the roof. In one of AR12's videos with a member of the development team, it was specifically mentioned that the feature would not be in the game.

Yeah, because that feature would be too convenient...

Did this AR12 at least have the courage to ask why it's not in the game?

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:55:58 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-15 14:53

It is weird why we can't remove some roofs of atleast certain cars like Cinque while we can in forzavista...people with dev build of FH3 can do almost everything

lucario_yee SE (0)

2018-06-15 15:19

GamerFIB7590 wrote
Yaris can't be in this game due to the end of the deal between T10 and Toyota/Lexus

But why was the Yaris in FH3?

Zordid wrote I just want a DeLorean...

If they added it, will it fly?

I wonder if they will add a Morgan Aero SuperSports

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:54:51 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-15 15:31

lucario_yee wrote I wonder if they will add a Morgan Aero SuperSports


Its in , like senna it was one of leaked cars in FM7 files

lucario_yee wrote

But why was the Yaris in FH3?


Toyota starting becoming an asshole in 2017

Leaked cars from a while back which helped people guess England was next location : i.ytimg.com/vi/K3GBZDe41Mo/maxresdefault.jpg

Considering half those cars already appeared in e3 trailer and demo pretty sure we will see all....cant wait for Peel p45

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:54:22 (Klumb3r)

lucario_yee SE (0)

2018-06-15 15:52

speedfreak975 wrote Leaked cars from a while back which helped people guess England was next location : i.ytimg.com/vi/K3GBZDe41Mo/maxresdefault.jpg

Considering half those cars already appeared in e3 trailer and demo pretty sure we will see all....cant wait for Peel p45


Yes! We're getting Ascari back!

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-15 15:59

When it comes to Toyota, the toyota spokesman allegedly said that placing their street cars in games makes people not want to buy their cars ....thats their logic

On the other hand...infinti,honda,Hyundai,RR and ford have placed their new cars as free dlc becasue videogames are considered great exposure to wide range of masses worldwide...hell they are one of best ways to advertise a product

-- Last edit: 2018-06-15 16:00:55

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-15 18:40

lucario_yee wrote

Yes! We're getting Ascari back!

Don't get your hopes up for the KZ1 though, as MS likes to censor Nazi abbreviations de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konzentrationslager

-- Last edit: 2018-06-15 18:46:34

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-15 19:05

The KZR-R is among the leaked cars so it will be in the game. If they change its name i dont know

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-06-15 19:13

KZ is an abbreviation of concentration camp?

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-15 19:25

Speedevil wrote KZ is an abbreviation of concentration camp?

"KZ" is a commanly used abbriviation for "Konzentrationslager", the German word for concentration camp

-- Last edit: 2018-06-15 19:27:51

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-15 22:24

More details

The ability to add your own music into the game is now gone, thanks to Groove's demise

Perks return from the previous games. Buying houses unlocks more perks.

You can own multiple houses at the same time. In fact it is possible to own all ten houses at once.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-15 22:32

The new IGN video explains more about Dynamic seasons. It's worth the watch to see how the worked , and it somewhat explains how this contributed for picking England as the studio needed a location they could access and study entire year and the fact they wanted to represent UK very well being from their which also drove them to go beyond ... focusing on small details like which animals appear in season and sound effects accompanied by seasons to how the different terrains will accumulate on car. Talking slighty about mud. They accumulated over 1.5tb worth of photography for the creation of the dynamic seasons

-- Last edit: 2018-06-15 22:35:47

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-16 09:53

AutoTracker wrote More details

The ability to add your own music into the game is now gone, thanks to Groove's demise

Who said that? You can't stream music via Groove anymore but I don't know if anyone ever did that. The Groove app is still there. It would be quite pathetic if they removed that functionality just because nobody wanted the Groove Music streaming thing.

I can still listen to my music on OneDrive just fine...

-- Last edit: 2018-06-16 10:12:56

mhaziqrules MY (0)

2018-06-16 16:22

BossMustang wrote

No I will refuse to play with the Cullinan. Its hideous.


What's wrong? License Issue.

lucario_yee SE (0)

2018-06-16 17:51

I want the F1 cars, which could be possible.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-17 08:05

Wish there will still be industrial area and ancient cities like FH2

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-17 16:00

All previous wishlists sound nice and have cars id love to see also some more :
-Lotus Evora 400 sport or 410 sport
(More new lotus ingeneral)
- 2019 BMW 8-Series
New Kia CEED and Corvetter ZR1 2018..
Not sure if they were mentioned before

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-17 17:51

Wishlisht-Jaguar XJ13/C-X75/XJR-15 please

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-17 18:25

ALMF-3512 wrote Wishlisht-Jaguar XJ13/C-X75/XJR-15 please

Ahhh the XJ13 is something id love to see and think plausible to be added..i wont dig in the classic UK cars that id love to see because they are alot ,

CX75 would be lovely but considering its concept might not make it.

-Rimac Concept two (the one was mentioned above)
-Aston Martin valkryie (have a feeling might be VIP)
-Mercedes-AMG project ONE
Some game needs to add the next gen of street performance what better than those 3 next to senna in forza

-- Last edit: 2018-06-17 18:27:55

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-17 19:04

weird that all 3 Jag I posted rarely chosen in RAC game.XJ13 now only in GT and few small games/C-X75 for Driveclub/NFS R and few small games/XJR-15 only in NFS3?Can't recall it correctly

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-17 19:43

If a new Cee'd ends up in the game, wait to put it in a later DLC so they might be able to get the next GT version in.

While we're at it, an i30 N would be great to go alongside the Veloster Turbo and Veloster N that are likely to show up at some point.

I've actually thought of a few more that would be neat to see show up either from the start of as DLC:

- 2018 Mazda MX-5 RF Grand Touring
- 2006 Lincoln LS V8
- 2018 Lotus Evora GT430 Sport
- 1983 Fiat Strada Abarth 130 TC
- 1996 Suzuki X-90
- 1983 Lonsdale YD45
- 2018 Vauxhall Insigia GSi
- 2018 Vauxhall Adam R2
- 1987 Buick LeSabre T-Type
- 1997 Vauxhall Sintra
- Ford Consul Corsair/Corsair V4

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-17 20:28

also,since we have Mk.II,can XJ join the roaster?

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-17 23:38

Since everyone is on this wishlist stuff, why not I do it?

1988 Peugeot 405 T16: A car leaked in Horizon 3 files about a year ago, the 405 T16 would fit well in Horizon 4. It's an underrated sports sedan which needs some love in games.

2013 MG MG3: Another car leaked from the same batch as the Peugeot. This small car would work well in the world of Horizon 4, especially if the city cars (like the Aygo, Micra, Ford Ka, Vauxhall Agila, etc.) return in playable form.

2016 Honda Civic GRC: This was leaked in Forza 7, it is quite likely that it will appear in Horizon 4, since other GRC cars are appearing.

1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato & 2003 DB7 Zagato: Two uniquely styled cars which appeared in FM4 DLC. Since we've seen many cars from FM4's DLC return recently, it's defintely possible these two will return in Horizon 4.

2000 Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo: An underrated FWD turbo coupe which last appeared as DLC in FM4, this would fit well into FH4, since this was Clarkson's car of choice in the Top Gear police challenge.

2009 Mercedes-Benz SLR Stirling Moss: Ignoring the fact that the SLR McLaren isn't here (yet), the SLR Stirling Moss fits just as well into this game, since it honors an iconic British racecar driver, plus this also was last seen in FM4.

1999 Ford Mondeo ST200: It would really be nice for Forza, or any game, to have a Mondeo. This one in particular fits well due to the fact that this was a special edition celebrating Ford's success with the Mondeo in the BTCC at the time.

2018 Ford Fiesta ST 5-door: This would make sense since this will be the latest addition to Ford's performance line in Europe.

2011 Citroen DS3 Racing: This one has not appeared for a while, since FM5 in fact. However, Citroen returned in FM7 when the 2CV arrived as DLC, so it's possible this could be brought back as well.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-18 04:56

TVR VIXEN/V8S
JENSEN INTERCEPTOR
JENSEN HEALEY
AM VANQUISH MK1

1962 Lincoln Continental please return,most stylish full size sedan in Forza

Please bring back more iconic TV/Movie cars,Mach 1 for GI60S/DMC-12 Time Machine/Gran Torino 72 for the same name movie/AR Duetto Spider for Graduate and a rush more,Forza really seldom care about TV/Movie cars,unlike,say,DSF

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:53:55 (Klumb3r)

theadmiester UK (0)

2018-06-18 18:47

Awful, awful picture (compressed + motion blurred capture), but this is clearly the Touareg R50 which is awesome to finally see carried across to Horizon.

i.imgur.com/e7wfEPU.png

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-06-18 19:13

Very nice catch

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-18 19:19

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJQyKAKhPG4

Video which shows both new traffic and playable cars, including McLaren 570S, Audi S4 (traffic), Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R, Bentley Bentayga, Mitsubishi Galant (traffic), among others

Klumb3r CL (464)

2018-06-18 19:33

Nice work J-2

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-06-18 19:36

Thank you!

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-18 19:55

The video was nice, its incredible depth they go for small details..in cover car. In the dynamic world. Their caliber of work keeps getting better and better

Comfortably Numb RU (111)

2018-06-19 10:12

Klumb3r wrote Nice work J-2

Not unique, J-2 always work hard

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-20 12:07

A car that i dont think anyone mentioned...
2018 TVR Griffith...is a must. We need that car

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-20 18:56

I actually guessed the new TVR as FH4 cover car......

solarriors CH (8)

2018-06-21 01:20

The removal of Groove is not a bad point, actually you can use Spotify/VLC or any software on Xbox/Pc to run alongside the game and play the music... so there's no feature lost.
You can own the 10 houses, seems obvious to me at least, since they are part of progressing through the career mode of the game.
I really willing to see transporter, police, ambulance, hauling and much more car related jobs

@speedfreak : Why would you think having Forza Editions Cars as VIP would be so bad ?

-- Last edit: 2018-06-21 01:21:23

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-21 01:23

Because vip cars always used to be gr8 additions in previous games...why would i bother with cars that merely give me RP boost. The only reason i got vip in FH2 and 3 was cars nothing else

Fm7 vip cars....taking cars that were free to all in FH3 and making them dlc is pretty much most shameful thing MS did including screwing up VIP boost in FM7

-- Last edit: 2018-06-21 01:26:24

theadmiester UK (0)

2018-06-21 15:50

2014 Ford Fiesta ST in the reveal trailer. Most likely driveable based on its past appearances.
i.imgur.com/10zFZPC.png

EDIT: And I believe the 2004 Civic Type R? Pretty sure the left one is but not sure about the right one.
i.imgur.com/hWpWe8A.png

-- Last edit: 2018-06-21 15:53:21

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-21 17:23

Theres news that the day one car pack is the 007 car pack

car mad1 UK (5)

2018-06-21 18:30

They finally put it in uk

solarriors CH (8)

2018-06-21 20:38

@speedfreak : I prefer that as few cars as possible are exclusive and as many choices as possible are offered to each player.
I don't feel frustrated (I don't mean you are :) )

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-21 21:56

solarriors wrote The removal of Groove is not a bad point, actually you can use Spotify/VLC or any software on Xbox/Pc to run alongside the game and play the music... so there's no feature lost.

Are you seriously telling me right now that constantly tabbing out of the game on PC to skip a song or just to adjust the volume of the music or even trying to get that level of multitasking to work on Xbox One would be as easy as just having the groove integration in-game? C'mon...


Anyway, here's my somewhat belated wishlist:

1981 DeLorean DMC-12
1985 Lotus Esprit Turbo
1972 Lotus Europa TwinCam
1967 Lotus Elan S130 Coupe
1972 TVR 3000M
2018 TVR Griffith
2006 TVR Tuscan S
2017 Bristol Bullet
2011 Bristol Fighter T
2009 Morgan AeroMax
2018 Rolls-Royce Phantom VIII
2016 Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupé
2017 Rolls-Royce Sweptail
2018 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
2010 Bentley Brooklands
1974 Triumph GT6 Coupé
1973 Triumph Dolomite Sprint
1972 Triumph Stag
2015 Ginetta G60
2005 MG XPower SV
1969 Adams Probe Motor Co. Probe 16
1980 Morris Marina (without the unfunny jokes)
2013 Vauxhall VXR8 GTS (replacing the Holden GTS)
1973 Vauxhall Firenza HP
1992 Vector W8

-- Last edit: 2018-06-28 18:07:59

Rodrigo BR (56)

2018-06-22 01:47

Zordid wrote
Are you seriously telling me right now that constantly tabbing out of the game on PC to skip a song or just to adjust the volume of the music or even trying to get that level of multitasking to work on Xbox One would be as easy as just having the groove integration in-game? C'mon...


Anyway, here's my somewhat belated wishlist:

...


Xbox One can lead with this situation normally, the integration with Spotify is perfect, but anyway, I prefer the Groove like was in FH3.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-22 12:34

Rodrigo wrote

Xbox One can lead with this situation normally, the integration with Spotify is perfect, but anyway, I prefer the Groove like was in FH3.

If they are cutting the ability to listen to your own mp3s through OneDrive and forcing everyone to use Spotify then no, it's quite the opposite of perfect (keeping in mind that Spotify throws adverts at you if you're not subscribed which I guess would make it a bit more radio-like?).

Multitasking always has been a hassle for me on my original Xbox One, maybe S and X are better at that though

-- Last edit: 2018-06-22 13:31:10

Rodrigo BR (56)

2018-06-22 18:40

Zordid wrote
If they are cutting the ability to listen to your own mp3s through OneDrive and forcing everyone to use Spotify then no, it's quite the opposite of perfect (keeping in mind that Spotify throws adverts at you if you're not subscribed which I guess would make it a bit more radio-like?).

Multitasking always has been a hassle for me on my original Xbox One, maybe S and X are better at that though

Radio u can't choose the music, Spotify in Xbox One is free, ad-powered but don't work like mobile app, that has a lot of advertisement, additionally, Microsoft Store have apps to hear to your own music (mp3), totally free.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-22 20:09

Rodrigo wrote
Radio u can't choose the music, Spotify in Xbox One is free, ad-powered but don't work like mobile app, that has a lot of advertisement, additionally, Microsoft Store have apps to hear to your own music (mp3), totally free.

I think it's best they leave it like it is, with the option to stream your music through Spotify for those who want that.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-23 18:16

www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/8t9sys/list_of_cars_showing_in_downloaded_folder_for_fh4/
FH4 car list leaked from Reddit

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-23 19:57

Interesting read. Seems that some brands will only have one vehicle, too.

The Q50 Eau Rouge is the only Infiniti listed, the Javelin AMX is the only AMC listed, the GNX is the only Buick listed, so no '70 GSX, even though it's in FM7.

Cadillac is reduced to three models, with the CTS-V Coupe and Escalade ESV removed, leaving just the ATS-V, CTS-V sedan, and the XTS limo.

Plymouth is reduced down to just the Hemi 'Cuda again, neither the Prowler or Fury return. The '65 Tempest Le Mans GTO is also absent, all other Pontiacs return from FH3.

There's a car listed as a 2017 Porsche Raymond...whatever the heck that is.

The '17 Ram Power Wagon is the sole Ram truck, as the Ram Runner is gone.

Here's how all of the DLC street and off road cars from FM7 stand at this point (not including F&F cars, as they're all no shows, and the Hoonigan cars, which all return):

- Abarth 124 Spider: Yes
- Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Spider: No
- Alfa Romeo Giulia: Yes
- BMW 328: No
- Bugatti Chiron: Yes
- Bugatti Type 35C: Yes
- Chevrolet Colorado ZR2: No
- '55 One-Fifty Utility Sedan: Yes
- Citroen 2CV 6: No
- Dodge Durango SRT: Yes
- '68 Monaro GTS 327: No
- '18 Civic Type-R: No
- Hyundai Veloster Turbo: No
- Hyundai Veloster N: No
- Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk: Yes (also replaces the '14 SRT model)
- Kia Stinger GT: No
- Lincoln Continental: No
- Lotus Elise GT1: Yes
- Maserati Levante: No
- Nissan Safari: No
- Porsche 964 Turbo: No
- Porsche 924 Carrera GTS: No
- '18 Porsche Cayenne Turbo: Yes
- Subaru 360: No
- Arctic Trucks Land Cruiser: Yes
- Volkswagen 1600 L: No
- Volvo XC90: No

-- Last edit: 2018-06-23 19:57:36

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-06-23 20:14

That list CAN'T be final at all. Leaving out the Volvo XC90, Colorado ZR2, the 964 and 924 Porsches, among many others? Doesn't make any sense. BTW, the Porsche Raymond is the codename for the 2017 GT2 RS.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-23 21:00

Sure the list is not full list
Much are lacked

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-23 21:31

Dont think these are all cars...i didnt count them to see how much are playable cars...considering the game is month away maybe some cars arnt added yet

Also LAM_Bellissima_17 is Centenario

so I did count them....
- 488 models including traffic cars and null car, forza edition models and "stories" cars
- did not see Peel p50 or morris minor which have been leaked before
- odd models feel way out of their comfort zone like Mercedes Race semi and the limo
- the new civic isn't in, which is very odd considering it was free DLC in 7 and not seen in carlist civic 15 is present
- I find it really odd a lot of offroad oriented DLC from 7 arnt mentioned like Nissan safari. ridgeline was called HON_trophy
- no Ascari what so ever but it has been leaked before.
- not sure it includes day 1 car packs like formula drift models.
- A lot of new forza edition not sure if some are VIP cars



-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:53:21 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-23 22:10

speedfreak975 wrote so I did count them.....overall 488 models including traffic cars and null car , interetsingly i did not see Peel p45 or morris minor , some models are forza edition and some like GMC and transit have stories model...also some models feel way out of their comfort zone like Mercedes Race semi and the limo
also the new civic isn't in, which is very odd considering it was free DLC in 7 and not seen in carlist civic 15 is present,
also no Ascari what so ever but it has been leaked before.
also not sure it includes day 1 car packs like formula drift models.

Peel P50,not P45

Since we saw Clarkson's house in E3 trailer and Transit was used alot in the trio's TG,will the story edition related to it.As for Vandura...TV/Movie cars,just like 007 DB5

Ascari may be dropped for the NAZI thing discussed before(which is a stupid reason)

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:52:59 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-23 22:16

ALMF-3512 wrote
Peel P50,not P45


not the point, i still think alot of cars if omiited is stupid decision

ALMF-3512 wrote Since we saw Clarkson's house in E3 trailer and Transit was used alot in the trio's TG,will the story edition related to it.As for Vandura...TV/Movie cars,just like 007 DB5


story models only appears on GMC and transit

So an update on leaked car list...apparently some people already downloaded the 86gb game....(wtf some ppl have fast wifi)...J-2 and ALMF are correct CARS keep getting added

There are some more cars in the files after the latest update:
AUS_FX4_Stories_64.
AUS_FX4_Traffic_64
MCL_720S_18.
MCL_WellingtonAE3_18 (Wellington = Senna, AE3 and SE3 are new)
MCL_WellingtonSE3_18
MER_Unimog_17
PEE_P50_62
REL_SupervanIII_Stories_72
TRI_Spitfire_62
VOL_IronKnight_16 (Volvo's own race truck)
VW_34_BeetleGRC_17
VW_GolfGTI_83

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:52:30 (Klumb3r)

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-06-23 23:47

Unimog? Oh, PLEASE be a U5023!

The ORIGINAL Spitfire 4 (MKI)?! Here's hoping the TR3 comes back to join it!

The barn find list has also been found:

- 1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
- 1983 Audi Sport Quattro
- 1930 Bentley Blower (probably a 4 1/2 Liter, with a 1931 8 Liter also appearing as a non-barn find model)
- 1986 Ford Escort (possibly the RS Turbo)
- 1964 Ford GT40 (Finally, a MkI GT40 in a Forza title! The '66 MkII also reappears.)
- 1993 Jaguar XJ220
- 1993 Lotus Elise GT1
- 1970 Land Rover Range Rover
- 1965 MG MGB GT
- 1965 Austin Mini Cooper S
- 1962 Peel P50
- 1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
- 1962 Triumph Spitfire 4
- 1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
- 1977 Volkswagen Golf GTI MKI

old.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/8t9v3f/spoilers_fh4_forza_horizon_4_barn_finds_from/

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:51:58 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-24 06:08

speedfreak975 wrote So an update on leaked car list...apparently some people already downloaded the 86gb game....(wtf some ppl have fast wifi)...J-2 and ALMF are correct CARS keep getting added

There are some more cars in the files after the latest update:
AUS_FX4_Stories_64.
AUS_FX4_Traffic_64
MCL_720S_18.
MCL_WellingtonAE3_18 (Wellington = Senna, AE3 and SE3 are new)
MCL_WellingtonSE3_18
MER_Unimog_17
PEE_P50_62
REL_SupervanIII_Stories_72
TRI_Spitfire_62
VOL_IronKnight_16 (Volvo's own race truck)
VW_34_BeetleGRC_17
VW_GolfGTI_83


I guess AE-Average Edition (normal) SE-Special Edition?

weird that Type D is under Audi,not Auto Union

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:51:36 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-24 07:36

Is this 1st forza we get MK1 golf instead of MK1 rabbit ?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-24 07:44

I wonder that Cerbera is a wrong year or another normal Cerbera,rather than Speed 12

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-24 08:00

Speed 12 has been already spotted also its making a return from FM4

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-24 08:05

DB4 60 should still be DB4GTZ from before

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-24 20:55

I hope they release the demo soon, can't wait to see how the game performs on my new PC (or on my old Xbox One for that matter)

Addition to my wishlist:

1981 Aston Martin Lagonda S2
2016 Aston Martin Lagonda Taraf
1939 Lagonda V12
1968 Marcos Mantis XP
1971 Marcos 3 litre
2018 Jaguar I-Pace HSE


-- Last edit: 2018-06-24 21:11:54

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-25 02:11

Relliant Story edition?British comedy?

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-06-25 08:51

Subaru legacy is only traffic vehicle once again :( Despite it being driveable in forza motorsports 7

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-25 10:33

250 GTO listed as 64,the S2 GTO return from FH1

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-25 10:50

It was in FH2 by sumo digital, but yeah if so, glad its back wont be less than 10 million credits

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-26 22:07

Car that would love to see in forza 4 most probably wont happen in this game even as DLC
The 2019 Aston Martin DBS Superleggra ... considering its official photoshoot just surfuced doubt we will see it

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-26 22:44

speedfreak975 wrote Car that would love to see in forza 4 most probably wont happen in this game even as DLC
The 2019 Aston Martin DBS Superleggra ... considering its official photoshoot just surfuced doubt we will see it

I think we might just get it as DLC... I hope they don't fuck up the sound this time

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 05:18

......Forza 4 is a really old X360 game

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-27 07:17

ALMF-3512 wrote ......Forza 4 is a really old X360 game

Considering i didnt specify which franchise it could be either at this point. And with context of the sentence its clearly horizon. Your comment was completely unnecessary

-- Last edit: 2018-06-27 07:17:41

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 08:01

OK my bad

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-27 09:19

Now i feel bad :p , sorry Didnt mean anything by it just a clarification

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 10:03

speedfreak975 wrote Car that would love to see in forza 4 most probably wont happen in this game even as DLC
The 2019 Aston Martin DBS Superleggra ... considering its official photoshoot just surfuced doubt we will see it

it should be in future car pack,since it is announced later than the game

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 10:08

speedfreak975 wrote Now i feel bad :p , sorry Didnt mean anything by it just a clarification

It's alright,no hard feeling

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 14:44

Not sure if that's the final list,since there's difference between list and trailer/gameplay

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-27 14:51

ALMF-3512 wrote Not sure if that's the final list,since there's difference between list and trailer/gameplay

We already acknowledged that as well.

I hope they improve the soundtrack to include more British music. I mean, in past decades Britain has pretty much been the most important country in terms of music. I'm thinking Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Queen, Led Zeppelin, The Clash, Mike Oldfield and so on.

While one can argue over taste there's no denying that all those Bands have been major players in their field.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-27 15:08:57

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 18:17

Since all trailer(Including Car Pack and DLC) songs hardly make into OST.Theres one British rock song largely wont get into OST list

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-27 19:22

ALMF-3512 wrote Since all trailer(Including Car Pack and DLC) songs hardly make into OST.Theres one British rock song largely wont get into OST list

I literally don't understand what you're trying to say

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-27 19:43

He's saying FH never featured massive artist and what you just named are legends and icons...i hope they add them but highly doubt

And trailer soundtracks are never in final games...like this reworked version of "I can see for miles " by the who
Personally i want to see CHVRCHES back with their new album :)

-- Last edit: 2018-06-27 20:04:28

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 20:01

Thanks for clarify my words

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-27 20:04

And sorry that my words arent very easy to get

konkordski UK (28)

2018-06-27 21:15

speedfreak975 wrote Personally i want to see CHVRCHES back [in the game's soundtrack] with their new album :)

YES.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-27 21:54

speedfreak975 wrote
And trailer soundtracks are never in final games...like this reworked version of "I can see for miles " by the who
Personally i want to see CHVRCHES back with their new album :)

I think songs by Chvrches have a better chance to be in the soundtrack than songs by The Who...

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-28 20:30

I wish the game car makes into FH4 is the one from CP2077

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-06-29 15:19

I still think it's weird that a lot of people still want Japan as next new game setting,even not FH4.Can't understand it

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-30 21:08

So how do you guys think the house/property system is going to work?

Personally, I think a TDU 2-like system doesn't really belong in a racing game but then again, we don't know if it's going to be that way.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-30 21:10:27

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-06-30 21:12

Houses will act like hubs or festival outposts. Allowing you car customizing /character customizion. with each property has unique perk so yeah similar to TDU in some sorts.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-06-30 21:14

No, I meant similar to TDU as in you can enter your house and store your cars in the garage and invite other people into your house, that sorta stuff

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-06-30 22:12

No, I think the only walking around your house that you can do is when you Forzavista your cars.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-01 11:58

Crew 2 is doing that with locations FPP touring around . It would be nice to get overview or some sorts in FH4 . Considering some properties have history

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-03 14:08

It seems FH4 E3 trailer is the only E3/Anouncement trailer with local vehicles showed in all scenes

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-03 21:10

The game has integrated mixer in progression its not forced but one of the ways to progress is streaming your gameplay on mixer

-- Last edit: 2018-07-03 21:11:05

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-04 15:54

speedfreak975 wrote The game has integrated mixer in progression its not forced but one of the ways to progress is streaming your gameplay on mixer

You don't really progress that way, you're only unlocking Forza edition cars by doing that

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-04 16:09

Unlocking cars is a part of progression :p
Disregarding if its not main career. But yeah i know

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-06 08:28

1st forza to feature "track width" upgrade . Offset for tires

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-06 12:47

speedfreak975 wrote 1st forza to feature "track width" upgrade . Offset for tires

Could you link to the source?

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-06 14:00

Zordid wrote
Could you link to the source?

Zordid the source is a tweet from Jon Knoles Jonk1969 whose design director for forza. His tweet states :A lot of cars - especially older cars with a narrow track that have more room to move wheels out than some modern cars with a nearly flush stance already. Example: '73 Escort RS, yes. '17 Ford Focus RS - no. We'll reveal more about this cool new feature soon.

Its clearly made to accommodate older classics. How will this function we will see. As offroad bodykits with offsets for Bentley and SVR were leaked with senna and P45 weeks before E3

-- Last edit: 2018-07-06 14:03:11

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-11 09:20

Track width , wheel spacers will be availabe for 150 cars at launch

30 new bodykits . Gameplay showed 2 , R32 and 650s

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-11 17:08

Maybe I could watch the next Livestream and finally ask why exactly there are no proper convertibles, although I think they cherry-pick the most retarded/easy to answer questions so maybe not.

It most likely has something to do with the interior model quality in third-person... I think. Although this doesn't explain why there are convertibles with the roof down.

-- Last edit: 2018-07-11 17:08:37

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-11 17:10

Not really quality thing. Youtuber has developer build and can drive cars as convertibles and they look and act normal so thats weird someone should really ask why they've been avoiding it

-- Last edit: 2018-07-11 17:14:39

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-11 17:13

speedfreak975 wrote Not really quality thing. Youtuber has developer build and can drive cars as convertibles and they look and act normal so thats weird someone should really ask why removing roof in forzavista doesn't keep it off ...for example during gameplay

Fixed it for you.

I invite you to join me spamming the mixer chat with that question next Tuesday :P

Oh yeah, and why all the character models have such shite haircuts...

-- Last edit: 2018-07-11 17:16:21

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-11 17:15

Zordid wrote
Fixed it for you.

I invite you to join me spamming the mixer chat with that question next Tuesday :P

Lol we should atleast ask, i find it weird they've been avoiding it

It is a nitpick in what looks to be amazing game and not big of a deal but doesnt stop us from asking

-- Last edit: 2018-07-11 17:17:09

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-11 17:17

speedfreak975 wrote
Lol we should atleast ask, i find it weird they've been avoiding it

My theory is that they intentionally leave it out so they can use it as a selling feature in future titles, makes just as much sense as the other stuff Microsoft has been doing in the last couple of years

Edit: Well, it is certainly a big deal for me. Especially with their Season-Mechanic, it would only make sense to include proper convertibles. Plus in Forza Horizon 3 I experienced a weather change during a car change often enough, so much so that I have not been able to drive any convertible without it instantly raining

-- Last edit: 2018-07-11 17:25:04

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-11 17:42

Lol i doubt it, it wont their star selling point thats for sure as they gun for never done features. And it has been done in TDU. It might be future addition or update..dunno.

Its definitely would be fan service feature like customization...

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-11 18:03

speedfreak975 wrote Lol i doubt it, it wont their star selling point thats for sure as they gun for never done features. And it has been done in TDU. It might be future addition or update..dunno.

Its definitely would be fan service feature like customization...

It's way more important for an open world racing game than character customization, that's for sure

Speaking of, I liked how, during the stream, they said how the player would able to recreate themselves through the customization, yet it lacks basic things such as the ability to have a male character with long hair... Maybe It's not hipster enough

-- Last edit: 2018-07-11 18:22:10

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-11 18:47

Honestly minor features that ill see at the beginning and forget...the game is already packing in too much features so i wont nitpick it . Though i did spend time on my TDU2 character..we will see

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-12 12:50

But you agree with me when I say that the ability to operate convertible roofs is a more important feature for a racing game than a character creator?

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-12 12:53

Anything car related is automatically more important offcourse, but i guess character customization is about increasing to reality of living horizon life with houses,jobs and whatnot

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-12 14:14

Regardless, I think I'm gonna write down my questions and post them into the Livestream's chat over and over again until that idiot from IGN (or Inside Xbox, whatever) notices them.

As I said, I invite you to help me do that, if you want.

-- Last edit: 2018-07-12 14:15:56

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-12 14:39

Yeah i will most definitely be waiting for next week stream...missed this one and had to watch it later. But wont miss the ones to come

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-12 15:06

My questions include but are not restricted to "Will you be able to open/close the roof of convertibles while driving and if not, why?", "Will you be able to listen to your own music while driving?", "How many of the cars available at launch are new to Forza?", "When will the demo come out?" and because why not "Will there be a DeLorean in the game?".

-- Last edit: 2018-07-12 15:08:38

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-12 15:12

I can tell you they will might answer 1st two and maybe delorean but doubtful. They wont disclose what cars are new or how many..Because they consider horizon and motorsport diff so what new here might be seen in previous motorsports from previous gen or this

Like TVR speed 12 is technically new to horizon.... as new cars go i think there is around 20 to 30 i guess

-- Last edit: 2018-07-12 15:25:11

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-12 18:50

DeLorean....sadly no,although I do want to see more Movie/TV star cars

Ken Block's Hoonigan V2 now with Gymkhana 10 livery

Ken Block recently posted a video he plays FH4 with Hoonigan V2,though only cockpit view

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:50:42 (Klumb3r)

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-15 12:14

Good for him?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-15 15:06

Zordid wrote Good for him?

He said he tune the handling of the Hoonigan,maybe more Blocky

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-16 09:13

No, he won't do that because he clearly only played it for promotional purposes...

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-16 09:59

Might be both, pro drivers trying out racing games is publicity and him saying that is that developers are taking feedback..bla bla it was done in forza motorsport 7 and GT Sport

Its a good play of publicity

-- Last edit: 2018-07-16 10:00:21

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-17 19:41

mixer.com/Xbox livestream starts in about half an hour

So I tried to ask my question, didn't get very far... Some mod kept telling me that it wasn't going to be in the game, he didn't give me an answer as to why though.

I kept asking because I wanted the devs to address this but what do you know? The same mod then quickly banned me from posting anything for 8 hours. Wow. So much for 'ask anything you want'.

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:50:16 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-17 22:49

Ouf missed it wasnt home to watch it, I'm guessing moderator considered it spam after he told you it wont be ingame. But the fact they keep avoiding the why is weird. Guessing its mor priority in their grand design

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-17 22:59

Can't say I expected them to actually give me a coherent answer but I wanted to hear something from the devs about this.

About the Stream: They didn't really show much new stuff aside from showing almost the whole map... Yeah, that happened. They were asked about the OST once and one of the devs actually cherry-picked that question, which he then answered by not saying anything about the OST. The Forzathon Live events will be annoying as hell if you're not able to not join it.

At least I now know that the cars leave behind a nice trail in mud, although I'm not sure if this affects driving at all

-- Last edit: 2018-07-17 23:00:00

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-18 23:13

Saw gameplay it wasnt massive stuff but it definitely assured me about some important stuff like transition from horizon solo to horizon life...the live forzathons are okay keep things interesting will get old pretty quick tho unless they mix it up. Map looks nice as a person who plays horizon mainly for offroad racing...loving the verticality and rural areas

-- Last edit: 2018-07-18 23:15:28

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-07-19 01:51

Looks like another car in the Formula Drift DLC pack has been found.

old.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/8zzq92/holy_moly/

Alec Hohnadell's Rain-X S13.

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-07-19 10:24

Whoever's idea it was add character emotes into the game made a bad decision, does not belong in Forza

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-19 10:53

They are okay similarly to GTA5 online end screen. Its a small feature that can be overlooked. Horizon is all about self expression with cars. The way you play . So it was bound to happen

-- Last edit: 2018-07-19 11:40:51

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-19 13:15

Bumpercars45 wrote Whoever's idea it was add character emotes into the game made a bad decision, does not belong in Forza

I think they're trying to turn Horizon into a proper MMO Racer. If you think about it, why did they add emotes if no other player will ever see them? My guess is that they're going to do an Update where you can walk around your house and invite other players, sorta like TDU2.

speedfreak975 wrote They are okay similarly to GTA5 online end screen. Its a small feature that can be overlooked. Horizon is all about self expression with cars. The way you play . So it was bound to happen

The problem is that there are at least 10 other features that they could've done instead, most of which are more important for a game like this.

I don't have a problem with the whole thing, I mean even my complaint about convertibles not working is rather minor. I'll still enjoy the game and the whole Horizon Life thing will probably keep me playing for longer.

I hope we'll hear more about the game around gamescom, maybe we'll even get a demo around that time.

-- Last edit: 2018-07-19 13:18:14

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-19 13:23

To be fair only racing game that has working convertibles in the world is TDU2. Not even crew its spiritual successor has them...blinkers are unnecessary in my opinion. They are expanding with drag/drift suspension. Wheel spacers and lift kits.

When it comes to forza people tend to complain about anything they can, i was watching rx7 gameplay and someone said 2 lane road was too wide (regardless that rx7 was taking 90% of the lane). people tend to compare horizon to their vision. My friend was trying FH3 gor 1st time after only playing nfs...a
His complain was game has too many features and content he has no idea what to do. Compare horizon to other games in its subgenre and it will eat them up

As a person who prefers motorsport (simulation track racing) its easy to spot that horizon is always the one that pushing itself forward wity new tech and features with the proceeding Motorsport adopts

-- Last edit: 2018-07-19 13:31:33

stryder237 EN (3)

2018-07-19 17:14

I do think the lanes are a bit too wide, especially as rural England is known for its narrow roads. At least they are smaller than Horizon 3's lanes, you could fit three small cars in each lane in parts of the map! I do agree that the Forza games, Horizon especially is unfairly criticized, whenever they add new cars for example comment sections are filled with requests for hundreds of cars. The developers can only do so much, and they've done a good job so far. I hope that this entry does add enough to keep it fresh, but I'll have to wait until release to know that.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-19 18:01

I know the roads there can be difficult and narrow but in game design that is an issue considering there are much wider vehicles than that RX7 and they need to make them accessible to all people of differnet skill set. Though keeping some extremely narrow would have been nice

I think forza has slighty pampered its community in otherwords a percent of them act like spoiled brats expecting something from their parent

-- Last edit: 2018-07-19 18:03:37

cyrus khan PK (0)

2018-07-19 21:48

Bumpercars45 wrote
Most of the front bumper options are for the 86 so you can get an almost stock looking front bumper for it


Even Spindle Grille Bumper too included in BRZ customization especially in NFS Payback. Asphalt even removed Toyota Supra and Scion FRS from vehicles list and states that having issues with Non-Japanese videogame developers that block Toyota vehicles to enter in videogame releases in Second Half 2017 and 2018 fiscal year, as GT Sport and Project Cars 2 has Toyota vehicles. Toyota will began enter in games in 2019 or forza have to stop license manufacturers just like done in Car-X Drift games where cars have no real names not even car brand and model badges. so this may forza can make entry of Toyota Vehicles.

Another thing is that as I always said that Forza allows race and liveried cars to be painted and allowed to add decals on it. I did it too in Forza motorsport 4.

one more thing. in XBOX 360 version of Forza Horizon 2, subaru brz had template disorder and unable to be have vinyls and decals installed by users while customizing. GT Sport only has livery editor as asphalt 8 has not.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-20 16:30

As a game that takes place in a region of the UK I hope like FH3 haf somewhat a focus on austrailan cars in almost every pack.
We get similarly here..
Hopefully we see cars like 2018 TVR Griffith
And 2018 Brabham BT62 and more like new DBS

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-20 16:51

new British.....New Lotus Esprit/Jaguar C-X75

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-20 17:53

New lotus esprit ? Last ive seen is 2010 model that got canceled due to financial issue. And now thanks to Geely we are getting one planned for 2020

-- Last edit: 2018-07-20 17:53:40

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-21 02:55

speedfreak975 wrote New lotus esprit ? Last ive seen is 2010 model that got canceled due to financial issue. And now thanks to Geely we are getting one planned for 2020

Considering Geely also planed to make Lotus focus on EV SUV.....It's hard to say if they really will make Esprit the way it should be

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-24 20:48

Ok, the second stream is almost over. I once again asked my one question of 'Will we be able to raise/lower the roofs of convertibles while driving?' a few times and the same admin (who is apparently a dev at T10 as well) as last time kept replying with the phrase 'this is not a feature', so it's same to assume that they're just fucking with us. It also tells me that it's not going to be possible in FH4 and they just don't want to disappoint the fans by saying it out loud.

And Winter looked far better in Blizzard Mountain...

-- Last edit: 2018-07-24 20:50:18

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-24 21:17

I have to disagree as effects go, and different surfaces it looks much better and varied also more varied particle diffusion also snow looks much better at night time but its bettee to judge live then compressed quality. Blizzard mountain was just more intense. As they said it wont have as extreme conditions as that.

And opening roofs while driving doesnt seem to be on forza's or any racing game list as you have to be basically going 20mph for it to happen...as it only availabe in TDU2 and GTA5 which doesnt even count as racing game....so i wouldnt really hold it against them.

-- Last edit: 2018-07-24 21:28:35

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-25 17:22

speedfreak975 wrote I have to disagree as effects go, and different surfaces it looks much better and varied also more varied particle diffusion also snow looks much better at night time but its bettee to judge live then compressed quality. Blizzard mountain was just more intense. As they said it wont have as extreme conditions as that.

I think it would look a whole lot better if there was much more snow. Yes, it wouldn't be as realistic but I think it would be much more fun to drive around think snow. I hope there will be a demo at GamesCom that I can try out, preferably with interchangeable seasons.

And yes, the whole convertible thing I do is super pointless, I know, but I just want the devs to acknowledge there's demand for the 'not feature'. I just think Forza would greatly benefit from this, especially since it's not a common feature.

-- Last edit: 2018-08-14 16:37:59

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-25 20:53

I can see your point, but I much prefer this as it means you'd have to tackle things differently. With coast areas being more icy and slippery and higher parts your car can get burried in snow like blizzard mountain peak road.

It definitely feels less static here which i love. I think as seasons go. Its Autumn, winter,spring, summer. (Favourite to least favorite) i think Autumn is most photogenic and i love effects of it. Winter because i loved blizzard mountain but snow can be slighty annoying on long spans. Spring over summer because summer is always sunny and clear skies...and i find that boring in photography

-- Last edit: 2018-07-25 20:58:28

bwalkerr US (0)

2018-07-26 02:11

I hope they add the new volvo s60 or v60 alonge with the xc90 and the kia stinger

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-27 11:14

so...now even GTAV has XJ13....Will FH4 does it too?

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-27 12:34

Great news, FH4 won't feature loot boxes or any form of microtransactions

Sauce: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-26-loot-boxes-to-be-removed-from-forza-motorsport-7

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-27 17:00

It was kinda already known, considering direction FM7 was taking like all cars that were locked behind events or timed dealers became availabe in the normal dealer and much more tweaks to eco system.

MS tried with Motorsport and got very strong feedback. They are money hungry but enough to act like EA and defend those practices

-- Last edit: 2018-07-27 17:05:53

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-07-28 10:01

shall we add unlockable star for all Barn Finds shown?

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-31 12:23

Today we will finally get Edinburgh gameplay in spring

Also hope rivals mode is very similar to Horizon 3 class based...because homoglobation kinda made me not touch it in motorsports and it was my favourite mode

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:49:51 (Klumb3r)

Zordid DE (3)

2018-07-31 20:20

Soundtrack wise it's business as usual with an abundance of electronic music and only one rock station (which is probably gonna play unknown shit). Timeless returns, which is nice but of course they didn't say a word about a custom soundtrack option...

Nevermind, it's only one of the most important features for me.

-- Last edit: 2018-07-31 20:23:26

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-07-31 21:00

I usally listen to bass and pop the ones that had nero CHVRCHES and so on....or just put music on my phone...but always end up on classical started with 1st TDU and kept going in almost everygame that had classical

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-07-31 21:15

speedfreak975 wrote I usally listen to bass and pop the ones that had nero CHVRCHES and so on....or just put music on my phone...but always end up on classical started with 1st TDU and kept going in almost everygame that had classical

Me too! Seems one of the most beautiful soundtracks for a game!

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-01 09:06

People complaining about not being able to control seasons because they dont want a week of snow in freeroam are really really annoying...its like snow is boogey man for their drifting paradise...horizon community really shines as the ungrateful spoiled brat when it comes to communities

-- Last edit: 2018-08-01 09:09:08

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-01 13:25

so seasons are not changeable even offline?

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-01 13:31

No.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-01 13:39

You will be able to change seaons when creating events and custom races..but worlds season calander is determined by xbox system clock or servers time system

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-03 11:36

speedfreak975 wrote You will be able to change seaons when creating events and custom races..but worlds season calander is determined by xbox system clock or servers time system

so the season changed via events wont continue afterwards?Or you can stick to one season by keeping offline?

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-03 11:39

No, you can't. The seasons in blueprints are temporary and outside of that, they will change according to the system clock and good luck changing that.

-- Last edit: 2018-08-03 11:39:27

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-08-07 17:49

Any platforms available to play?

mm2mm1fan US (6)

2018-08-07 20:46

Zordid wrote No, you can't. The seasons in blueprints are temporary and outside of that, they will change according to the system clock and good luck changing that.


I heard that if you disconnect your system from the internet and change your system clock settings you can make the game go in any season you want

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-07 21:37

That way you will end up missing alot of events and stuff...losing alot of features, not worth it

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-07 22:46

mm2mm1fan wrote

I heard that if you disconnect your system from the internet and change your system clock settings you can make the game go in any season you want

Could be, they didn't really specify whether they actually mean the Xbox's/PC's system clock but I guess the game will have it's own system clock.

mm2mm1fan US (6)

2018-08-08 00:59

Zordid wrote
Could be, they didn't really specify whether they actually mean the Xbox's/PC's system clock but I guess the game will have it's own system clock.


It would be your system clock I read

speedfreak975 wrote That way you will end up missing alot of events and stuff...losing alot of features, not worth it


Just play for a couple of hours offline?

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:49:27 (Klumb3r)

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-08-12 11:15

HUGE leak. Again. Many surprises await!

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 17:17

I also found the car list for 007 DLC
DB5 Bond
DB10 Bond
V8 Vantage Bond
Z8 Bond
2CV6 Bond
Esprit Bond(Not sure for Turbo or S1)

Ford Anglia
2014 Holden Sandman
2010 Jaguar C-X75 (Maybe Spectre)
1959 Porsche 356A Coupe

the 007 Car Pack should be the first real pack after FD

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:49:11 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 18:01

Can you provide source of the 007 leak

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 18:09

pastebin.com/6YxS2Fut

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 18:21

AMC_Hornet_74*
AUD_RS4_01*
AUD_RS6_03*
AUD_RS6_09*
AUD_RS6ME_15&*
AUD_RS7_13*
AUD_RS7ME_13*
AUD_S4_04*
AUD_TypeD_39*
AUS_FX4_64
AUS_FX4_HE_64
AUS_FX4_Stories_64
ASC_KZ1R_12*
AST_DB10Bond_14
AST_DB5Bond_64
AST_V8VantageBond_87
BEN_Blower_31
BEN_ContinentalGTS_HE_13&
BMW_850CSi_96*
BMW_M5E39_03*
BMW_M6_10*
BMW_Z8Bond_99
CAD_EscaladeME_12&*
CAD_XTSLimo_13*
CAT_R500_HE_13&
CIT_2CV6Bond_81&*
FOR_Fairlane_64*
GMC_Vandura_Stories_83&
HOL_HSVw427_09*
HON_CivicSi_86*
HON_CRXMugen_84*
JAG_CX75_10
JAG_EtypeLightweight_64
JAG_XKRS_12&
JEN_InterceptorSP_71* (yes it's here again)
LAM_BellissimaHE_17& (Bellissima = Centenario)
LAM_SestoElemento_HE_11&
LOT_EspritBond_77
MAS_Ghibli_97*
MAZ_Miata_90*
MAZ_RX7_85*
MER_24_RaceTruck_15*
MER_24_RaceTruck_HE_15&*
MER_C32AMG_04&
MER_CLKGTR_HE_98&
MER_SL65AMG_HE_09&
MIN_JohnCooperWorks_09*
MG_MGB_65*
MOR_AeroSS_10*
NIS_IDxNISMO_15*
NIS_Juke_14*
POR_911GT2_HE_95&
POR_911TurboS_93*
POR_356ACoupe_59
REN_Clio_03*
TRI_Spitfire_62

+ All expected VWs are returning, as well as:
VW_GolfGTI_83 (EU-spec replacing the Rabbit GTI)

Nice to see interceptor in the list...also 2010 Cx75...not 2013. Also IDx is returing to horizon after fh3 absence

-- Last edit: 2018-08-12 18:23:56

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 18:29

Man With Golden Gun Hornet

whats ME?

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:48:55 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 18:34

No idea, i can guarantee someone will recreate spectre though in Edinburgh.

007 car pack might be day one pack or something..like f&f packs...not directly linked to car pass

-- Last edit: 2018-08-12 18:39:04

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 18:37

So AMC Hornet is also a Bond car without Bond name in it

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 18:42

Also interesting...that while horizon edition name has been dropped for forza edition...i think horizon edition sounds better. All forza edition cars arw still referred as HE in coding

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 18:44

Day One pack is confirmed as a Movie—Tied Pack 2 month ago

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 18:49

Ah then its that. Thats some great day one content

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 18:52

It's nice that I Percisely Guessed 007 as the tied Movie.Every car chase lover loves Bond car

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 18:59

Had to be it. There is nothing more British than 007...maybe Austin Powers :p... but not as iconic cars go. Also 007 DB5 was leaked with senna and peel p50 weeks before E3 just diddnt expect 007 as day one

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-12 19:05

Thats sth I am afraid of
If PG really max out in FH4 for local setting
And based on how most RAC studio ends under MS....
I highly doubt PG will keep the quality after FH4
So maybe FH4 is the one last good FH

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-08-12 19:21

So Ford has announced they'll reveal the EU-spec Ranger Raptor at GamesCom, and this video shows a Raptor with green "X"s on the car, possibly suggesting an appearance in this game. youtu.be/wrQIpclM0h

At the end, it shows a date "21.08.18", likely the day it'll be revealed, so keep your eyes peeled on that date.

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-08-12 19:33

AutoTracker wrote So Ford has announced they'll reveal the EU-spec Ranger Raptor at GamesCom, and this video shows a Raptor with green "X"s on the car, possibly suggesting an appearance in this game. youtu.be/wrQIpclM0h

At the end, it shows a date "21.08.18", likely the day it'll be revealed, so keep your eyes peeled on that date.

Yes, I agree.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-12 19:38

I dont think quality after 4 will diminsh. I have no idea how the forza calander works with next gen xbox ..so no one knows but i dont expect PG games to diminish quality wise

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-13 04:47

If C-X75 is confirmed,maybe XJ13 will be in future pack

Another good reason for UK setting is that since 2016 UK has a policy to reduce tax for points earned by game developer
English Language and words
UK developer
UK Setting
UK Character
UK Music
UK Culture

Cutural Test For Video Games

As for 007 pack,the DB5 weaponized edition already leaked....I wonder if the Esprit S1 can turn into a sub like the one from movie.....

And if they do apeear as Bond version...A good reason for the lack of Vanquish MK1....Vanish car is just too cheating

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:48:14 (Klumb3r)

Kroozah US (0)

2018-08-15 15:59

Hi I'm new!
So I know this question would have probably been better asked back when the stream was new...but in the last stream where they showed Edinburgh, they mentioned the new dynamic headlight lighting effects, where the shadows move in real time relative to your headlight's position. However, I think I heard them mention that the feature is only available on the Xbox One X? Maybe the older/less powerful Xboxes can't render that. Anyone know if that's true? I think it's a really cool feature that makes the game more realistic, but I have an original model Xbox One that I bought used, I don't see the point of upgrading to a new $500 one unless the new games play/render horribly on the old one.
I'm also aware that I'm stuck with 1080p and 30fps only, but that doesn't matter to me because my TV is only 1080p capable anyway. I just hope that there aren't other performance problems just by virtue of using an older Xbox.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-15 16:10

Welcome!
And yes the real time shadow casting is an xbox one X feature. I have one S still think game will run and look great not sure if S will have any features over orginal console other than 4k. Most definitely wont be upgrading before next gen xbox regardless one x is milestone.

-- Last edit: 2018-08-15 16:28:16

Kroozah US (0)

2018-08-15 20:14

speedfreak975 wrote Welcome!
And yes the real time shadow casting is an xbox one X feature. I have one S still think game will run and look great not sure if S will have any features over orginal console other than 4k. Most definitely wont be upgrading before next gen xbox regardless one x is milestone.


Ah, oh well. I'm sure the game will look at least as good as FH3, which is still pretty good.

BurnoutGT24 CA (10)

2018-08-16 04:51

This game has dabbing because its TRENDY HIP AND KEWL

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-16 14:13

I'm sure the soundtrack is gonna be full of fake-depressed cloud rap

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-16 17:00

www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/97qsbs/forza_horizon_4_full_car_list_leak/
this leak contains more weird cars,but no C-X75........

No C-X75 seems weird,since other Bond DLC cars are still here

Also,no AMC Hornet for Man with the Golden Gun

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:47:32 (Klumb3r)

konkordski UK (28)

2018-08-16 18:29

ALMF-3512 wrote No C-X75 seems weird,since other Bond DLC cars are still here

but that's a bond VILLAIN car.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 00:51

Saw the link ALMF..it does have 2010 CX75

So I glanced over latest version of list some cars caught my attention :

- Formula D 2004 M3 that didnt make it with Pack or comes later in some sorts
- 2019 Mercedes-AMG Project One
- 2018 Aston Martin Valkryie
- 2018 TVR GRIFFITH
- 2017 Koenigsegg Agera RS
- 1965 Peel Trident
- 1987 DAF 95 twin turbo x1
- 2016 racing truck that I couldnt find on google that much info on
- 1976 Jensen Interceptor
- 1970 Porcshe 917 LH ( I think might be FM7 residue)
- 1928 Napier Railton
- 1988 Peugeot 405 t16
- Bond cars mainly 2010 C-X75, 2014 DB10, 1977 Esprit

Also Tesla made re-appearance and according to leak its 2014 Model S

Hopefully all these are at launch

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:47:12 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-17 09:19

FM7 was 917/20 Pink Pig

1970 LH was the one from FH3 hidden cars...Pink Pig 917/20 for 1971

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:46:30 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 09:53

If all these cars make it at launch best carlist ever... love the idea of vintage racers on open road

I do remember among that FM7 leaked cars pre E3 : Lexus RCF GT3, fictional fallout atom

Yeah the leak suggests its the #3 917LH

www.simeonemuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/historic/1970-porsche-917lh-f3q-historic.jpg

Also 2019 GT3 RS wasnt on that list...maybe it'll show up later

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:46:54 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-17 10:14

no 2019 GT3RS means no 917/20

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 10:34

I can understand why pink pig didnt make it...still think 2019 GT3 RS will and up making it latet on

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-17 11:00

Since the GT3RS update (along with 917/20) come after E3,so not likely that they are in FH4 from the start

if #3 LH...Should be Martini Rossi livery

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:46:11 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 11:48

71 soundtracks leaked. Someone placed them in Spotify.
open.spotify.com/user/jlfgaming/playlist/5PkNSRODWEvFIp4u8mHZXH?si=e65uCh8-TCSsRjQecudzXQ

Didnt look at them but saw Never say die from CHVRCHES new album :)
Spotify isnt availabe here

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 11:49:00

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-17 11:51

Timeless seems like a mock-up of classical music from Burnout Paradise

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 11:55

These are definitely not all of them considering FH3 had 150 songs.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-17 12:57

speedfreak975 wrote If all these cars make it at launch best carlist ever... love the idea of vintage racers on open road

It's good and all but best carlist ever? I think that award goes to FM4

speedfreak975 wrote
Didnt look at them but saw Never say die from CHVRCHES new album :)
Spotify isnt availabe here

Eh... Is that a Black Sabbath Cover?

Edit: No, it's not but it's still not very good...

'Kay, the only good song apart from the classical stuff is Rapper's Delight..... Great Soundtrack. I see that PG really cares about British culture. /s

Good thing I can play my own.... Oh, nevermind

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:45:45 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 16:38

I wasn't counting motorsport...mainly was thinking of open world games and I think 4 and 7 are pretty close when it comes to good car lists

Still think horizon 4 is one of greatest because while only 450 cars (compared to other forza titles) Very varied and fact its open world gives it an advantage and it has focus on offroad vehicles trucks in mix now..but again this is very subjective

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 17:35:05

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-17 17:28

yeah,agree for FM4 as best carlist in Forza history

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 17:29

Rapper's delight is in !?!
Anyway you can post screenshot or list or something i cant open Spotify here.

Amanaged to listen to samples of 29 songs in that playlist only most being EDM I guess. Which feel like stuff to be indy music festival...not bad cruising music . Always can go back to classics

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 17:36:45

konkordski UK (28)

2018-08-17 17:40

speedfreak975 wrote 71 soundtracks leaked. Someone placed them in Spotify.
open.spotify.com/user/jlfgaming/playlist/5PkNSRODWEvFIp4u8mHZXH?si=e65uCh8-TCSsRjQecudzXQ

there's more... nfssoundtrack.com/forzahorizon4/
... most of them are from american artists.

just a bit disappointed that they picked "never say die" from chvrches' new album. that doesn't sound like a good cruising song imo.
but there's beck's "colors" and the killers' "run for cover", both of which i love.

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 17:41:33

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-17 17:42

imgur.com/a/17PMHzh

I don't know what everybody likes about chvrches, they sound like any other pop band to me

Edit: Ninja'd by James May...

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 17:43:46

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 17:50

Its matter of taste . I dont really listen to indy alot but singer voice is nice and the instrumentals is somewhat different

As it goes for never say die ...it wouldnt have been my choice from their latest album maybe Graffiti, miracles or Get out...a faster beat

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 17:51:29

konkordski UK (28)

2018-08-17 17:56

Zordid wrote I don't know what everybody likes about chvrches, they sound like any other pop band to me

how dare you.

jk different strokes for different folks.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-08-17 18:00

Yeah matter of opinions I love CHVRCHES. Also loved their latest feature which would have worked very well if location was Japan. I think their instruments and rhymes espacilaly older songs inspire from previous eras


Also Greta Van Fleet is in there alot of people say they are like modern Led Zeplin

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 18:02:28

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-17 18:16

speedfreak975 wrote
Also Greta Van Fleet is in there alot of people say they are like modern Led Zeplin

Eh... the singer sounds somewhat like Robert Plant? It still doesn't really sound like Led Zepplin but they sure try

konkordski wrote
jk different strokes for different folks.

Nicely said

-- Last edit: 2018-08-17 18:17:47

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-20 04:36

After checking the leaked car list,I found that SLR is still missing,last seen in FH2

Since the rights to SLR is in McLaren's hand,weird they didnt ask for SLR's returning

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:44:59 (Klumb3r)

solarriors CH (8)

2018-08-23 02:26

What about Taxi, Ambulance, Police, Pizza Delivery jobs?Those are classics

Zordid DE (3)

2018-08-27 14:51

I've been to GC and I've gotta say it was a bit shit. Yes, FH4 was playable but it 'only' was the same old E3 demo we've seen a million times. Nevertheless, it was fun while it lasted...

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-08-31 13:24

FH4 all achievements
Welcome to Britain – Arrive at the Horizon Festival. (10)
Pride Before the Fall – Qualify for Horizon Autumn. (10)
Snow Problem – Qualify for Horizon Winter. (10)
Optional Extras – Apply your first Car Mastery. (10)
Spring Into Action – Qualify for Horizon Spring. (10)
Welcome to a New Horizon – Qualify for the Horizon Roster. (30)
Jolly Cooperation – Complete 5 Horizon Life Co-op Races. (20)
Human After All – Complete 5 PvP Races. (20)
There’s No ‘I’ in Team – Take part in your first #FORZATHON Live Event. (10)
Teamwork Makes the Dream Work – Complete Round 3 of a #FORZATHON Live Event. (20)
Life of the Party – Take part in 20 #FORZATHON Live Events, completing at least Round 1 in each. (30)
Whatever Next? – Complete every Showcase Event. (20)
Colossus of Roads – Reach Round 10 in the Horizon Road Racing Series. (20)
Muddied – Reach Round 10 in the Horizon Dirt Racing Series. (20)
Bouncy Bouncy, Having Such a Good Time! – Reach Round 10 in the Horizon Cross Country Series. (20)
I Live My Life… – Reach Round 10 in the Horizon Drag Racing Series. (20)
Moonlighting – Reach Round 10 of Street Scene. (20)
Horizon Fashion Week – Unlock 100 clothing items for your character. (20)
Official Horizon Board Game – Smash all 200 Bonus Boards. (20)
I Feel the Need – Reach Speed Trap Hero level 10. (10)
Apex Predator – Reach Speed Zone Hero level 10. (10)
Pilot’s License – Reach Danger Sign Hero level 10. (10)
“Do you know what ‘DK’ stands for?” – Reach level 10 in The Drift Run. (10)
Auto Barn – Find and restore your first Barn Find. (10)
Antique Restorer – Find and restore 15 Barn Finds. (20)
Taking the Grand Tour – View every Beauty Spot. (20)
An Illustrious Career – Finish 40 different Horizon Story chapters. (20)
Star Centurion – Get 100 stars in Horizon Stories. (50)
Week Complete – Complete a #FORZATHON Weekly Challenge. (10)
Crowning Achievement – Purchase a castle. (20)
Special Edition – Get your first Forza Edition Car from a Wheelspin. (10)
Test your Might – Complete The Trial. (20)
First-Time Adventurer – Complete your first Team Adventure. (10)
The Spirit of Adventure – Reach level 5 in Racing Team Adventure, Games Team Adventure, or Anything Goes Team Adventure. (20)
Certified Adventurer – Qualify for a League in Ranked Team Adventure. (20)
Well Seasoned – Complete a Season Championship and receive a reward. (10)
Overachiever – Complete a Season PR Stunt and receive a reward. (10)
Purple Split! – In Rivals, beat a Rival without receiving a “dirty time” penalty. (10)
Hit the Jackpot – Spin your first Super Wheelspin. (10)
Stunt Superhero – Get 3 stars on every PR Stunt. (50)
First Love – Buy your first car from the Autoshow. (10)
Go the Distance – Win a race at The Colossus, The Gauntlet, The Titan or The Marathon. (20)
The Noisy Cartographer – Drive down every road in Britain. (20)
At One with the Car – Apply every Car Mastery available for a single car. (10)
Master of Many – Apply 50 Car Masteries. (20)
Accomplished Driver – Reach Level 20. (10)
Horizon Superstar – Gain Superstar Status by reaching Level 200. (50)
Reaping the Rewards – Complete a race of 3 or more laps at The Goliath in a Forza Edition Car. (20)
Tortoise and the Hare – Complete a PvP Showdown Race in an X class and a D class car. (20)
Hatch Me If You Can – Complete the Festival Drag Strip in a Hot Hatch in under 25 seconds. (20)
Record Breaker – Get 258mph on a Speed Trap in the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport. (20)
Ground Force – Get 3 stars at a Danger Sign in a vehicle from the Trucks Car Type. (20)
Coronation Trickin’ – Bank a Skill Chain of 195,300 or more points. (20)
Never Tell Me the Odds – Win a race in the Peel P50. (20)
Tame the Monster – Complete a race in an S1 class Rally Monster. (20)

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-04 13:56

Newly leaked gameplay www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJlJBf5hX38

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-04 14:38

C-X75 may goes into production as J-type(for now)with less power and lower level of market in 2020(aim at NC1 NSX)so C-X75 maybe have its 4th edition to be in FH4(Turbine/Hybrid 4 cylinder/V8/Hybrid V6)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-04 16:54

I honestly starting to think these leaks are intentional....it was on MS store ....

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-04 17:00

Flying Scotsman-The name of Train showcase event

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-04 18:30

speedfreak975 wrote I honestly starting to think these leaks are intentional....it was on MS store ....

They were listed as game clips... It's far more plausible they were made by some people who already have the game for some reason and didn't realise that the game clips they made were used on the store page.

MS took them down like 10 Minutes later, they probably didn't expect something like that to happen.

-- Last edit: 2018-09-04 18:32:26

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-04 18:42

Maybe beta testers....or something....its all over youtube and looked very good. If anything those leaks are helping....its less than month away

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-04 18:43

I just want to play the demo....

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-04 18:46

Never managed...only managed to play FH2 demo...when FH3 demo came out i had wifi issues...so couldnt download it...same shit happened with crew 2 closed beta...Ill just wait for complete game. Usually i follow my gut in games...till now cant say it failed me

-- Last edit: 2018-09-04 18:48:04

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-09-04 19:21

I think it's leaked, not from beta tester but from MS Store.
MS Store leaked new Project CARS 2 DLC same way.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-04 19:46

Have you seen the footage? It's clearly not promotional material...

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-04 20:19

Thats magic of a leak...its not supposed to be promotional its just there to grab attention and show raw footage

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-09-04 23:20

I hope to have the 2015 Audi RS6 Avant in this game, because for some reason, it did not appear in FH3

-- Last edit: 2018-09-07 16:26:03

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-06 15:45

I just want a DeLorean... and a SAAB 99 Turbo

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-06 16:42

XJ13 please

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-06 18:45

forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst131543_Data-from-the-FH4-Car-Wish-Lists-thread.aspx

Some analytics from the official car wishlist thread, including the most requested cars.

mm2mm1fan US (6)

2018-09-07 22:24

www.forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/wir_9_7_18

Official car list, Mitsubishi is gone now despite being in the leaked car list :(

-- Last edit: 2018-09-07 22:24:32

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-07 22:38

Valkryie
Griffith
Project one
Agera RS
and some of interesting cars that stood out from leaked car list arent there at launch unless some are from vip/ day one content or upcoming dlc

Also lack of Mitsubishi is odd considering we've seen them ingame

-- Last edit: 2018-09-07 22:41:17

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-09-07 22:51

No mitsubishi? :(

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-07 23:21

One absence from the above list is Mitsubishi. While our teams work hard to license hundreds of brands for Forza games, we can’t always align our fans’ desires with the interests of every licensor, as is the case here with Mitsubishi. As a result, we’re unable to include Mitsubishi cars in Forza Horizon 4 at this time.

Direct quote from the devs

-- Last edit: 2018-09-07 23:21:59

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-09-08 02:07

speedfreak975 wrote One absence from the above list is Mitsubishi. While our teams work hard to license hundreds of brands for Forza games, we can’t always align our fans’ desires with the interests of every licensor, as is the case here with Mitsubishi. As a result, we’re unable to include Mitsubishi cars in Forza Horizon 4 at this time.

Direct quote from the devs

Thank you, Speed Freak.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-08 03:06

so no lexus no toyota no mitsubish...Also lots of leaked car are absent

quite dissapointed by the list....though not for lack of Mitsubishi,but they delete too many previous cars,yet not many are added to fill the gap

there are cars other than Toyota/Mitsubishi absent....weird...maybe they decide to change the list

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:43:36 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-08 06:26

Keep in mind leaked carlist was based on audio so the cars in it might be also dlc similarly to how 3 got some of its dlc leaked before launch.

Also forzathon from 3 tended to add cars that werent in the list...maybe they emphasized that....Rolls missing is probably weirdest to me

The only cars that need to be deleted are Mitsubishi....rest might be added later through events

-- Last edit: 2018-09-08 06:30:14

Kroozah US (0)

2018-09-08 22:02

Disappointed to see that Mitsubishi is gone. I was hoping for a 3000GT to fill in the gap that the absence of the Supra left. I wonder if maybe they'll release a Mitsubishi pack if the licensing issues get sorted out later? I wonder what their problem is. I know Toyota is out because of their dumbass reasoning of "no one will buy our cars in real life if we put them in games", but what's with Mitsubishi? AR12 Gaming says it could be because people only ever talk about how good Mitsubishi USED to be, back in the Evo days, and Mitsubishi got offended by that and pulled licensing. Maybe that's Toyota's actual reasoning too.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-08 22:31

Toyota reasoning is that videogames discourage people from buying their cars unlike how other brands see videogames as advertisements. Their new gaming liscenes disapproves of car customization and street racing and other activities.

I also heard that theory about Mitsubishi . Slight deviation from thats is that they are Removing old to advertise their newer models in the game. Because in earlier builds and leaks you could see traffic galant. And models. So i guess Mitsubishi might return with some of its new line-up

-- Last edit: 2018-09-08 22:45:41

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-09-08 23:32

We don't know why Mitsubishi isn't in FH4. Let's not make up a reason without any evidence.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-08 23:42

Its the internet, do you really expect people not to theorize about the subject or any subjevt in that matter :p. Have to give it to that theory it has some partial sense but timing is weird.
I still think this just like VW in FH3 and they will be back Hopefully.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-09 01:39

New Mitsubishi....I'm not looking forward to it

mrmundy555 PH (1)

2018-09-09 03:33

We can't get Mitsubishis in FH4. Well, it could be that of Mitsubishi killing the Evo and replacing it with cheap garbage like the Mirage and the Outlander was the most possible reason or otherwise, the same reason as Toyota's removal in FM7.

And yes, no Corsa B till now.

One of the possible expansion packs could be a James Bond expansion.

www.forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/wir_9_7_18

-- Last edit: 2018-09-09 03:35:13

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-09 04:11

At least Bond pack will be great,rest pack....probably just like packs from FM7....racing games from MS owned studios,not a good idea

At least there still be lots of British returns,that's good

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:44:27 (Klumb3r)

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-09-09 08:31

mrmundy555 wrote We can't get Mitsubishis in FH4. Well, it could be that of Mitsubishi killing the Evo and replacing it with cheap garbage like the Mirage and the Outlander was the most possible reason or otherwise, the same reason as Toyota's removal in FM7.

And yes, no Corsa B till now.

One of the possible expansion packs could be a James Bond expansion.

www.forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/wir_9_7_18


You can only blame 'fans' for their "Supra is the great car, but no one would buy it so they discontinued it, but Prius is s*hit and it's bestseller", and people for buying their new products.

I mean i am all for older great cars, and new generations of them, not these modern hybrids and electric cars, but consumer is always right.

Why people stopped buying Lancer Evo and Impreza STI? So they could buy Audi RS or some AMG, or BMW with Liberty Walk kit even if these cars can't come close to Evo and STI...

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-09 15:49

bond pack with Jensen Intercptor?????I dont remember Interceptor in 007

1974 AMC Hornet X “Bond Edition”
2014 Aston Martin DB10 “Bond Edition”
2008 Aston Martin DBS “Bond Edition”
1987 Aston Martin V8 Vantage “Bond Edition”
1964 Aston Martin DB5 “Bond Edition”
1999 BMW Z8 “Bond Edition”
1981 Citroen 2CV “Bond Edition”
2013 Jaguar C-X75 Prototype “Bond Edition”
1971 Jensen Interceptor/FF?? “Bond Edition”
1977 Lotus Esprit “Bond Edition”

Interceptor from The Saint,since DP216/1 DB5 also in the show,and Interceptor is the main car in the 80s version The Saint

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:44:03 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-09 16:26

Did they reveal them officialy ?
Also jensen was mentioned in a novel "Solo"

-- Last edit: 2018-09-09 16:28:23

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-09 16:31

speedfreak975 wrote Did they reveal them officialy ?
Also jensen was mentioned in a novel "Solo"

the list is from Microsoft store,so should be official

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-09 18:25

ALMF-3512 wrote
the list is from Microsoft store,so should be official

No, it isn't. The list was found in the leaked files (not on the MS Store) and it only features 5 cars but since car packs feature 10 cars the user who originally discovered this just guessed the additional cars

Source: old.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/9ec4pz/forza_horizon_4_someone_on_gtplanet_found_a/e5nquiv/?context=1

Actually, based on the list you posted I'm going to assume you already knew that Reddit post but are too illiterate to understand the context

speedfreak975 wrote Did they reveal them officialy ?
Also jensen was mentioned in a novel "Solo"

James Bond drove a Jensen FF in the novel and whilst it is based on the Interceptor it's not really the same.

The novel wasn't written by Ian Fleming so it's hardly canon anyway...

-- Last edit: 2018-09-09 18:45:09

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-09 18:51

Zordid wrote
No, it isn't. The list was found in the leaked files (not on the MS Store) and it only features 5 cars but since car packs feature 10 cars the user who originally discovered this just guessed the additional cars

Source: old.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/9ec4pz/forza_horizon_4_someone_on_gtplanet_found_a/e5nquiv/?context=1

Actually, based on the list you posted I'm going to assume you already knew that Reddit post but are too illiterate to understand the context


James Bond drove a Jensen FF in the novel and whilst it is based on the Interceptor it's not really the same.

The novel wasn't written by Ian Fleming so it's hardly canon anyway...

Illiterate isnt a nice word

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-09-09 19:05

What do you expect, people like being dicks to each other here.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-09 19:10

Speedevil wrote What do you expect, people like being dicks to each other here.

C'mon,I thought people on this site are nice to each other

Kroozah US (0)

2018-09-10 05:40

Does anyone know if Turn 10/Playground has ever brought back cars from a previous Forza game into a new one, but only as DLC (besides Porsche)? It would be kind of a shitty thing to do, since you'd likely have to pay for it, but I find it odd that in a game set in the UK, there are no Rolls-Royces, despite them being in FH3. Maybe they'll be Forzathon rewards or something? Or maybe they just didn't want to license their cars like Toyota and Mitsubishi, or Turn just decided against adding them this time around. Who really knows, I just find it odd.

But again, have they ever brought back cars from previous games as paid DLC?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-10 06:06

FH3 brought back F50GT in a pack,though its in FH1

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-10 06:09

As of forza 5 we've never paid for DLC car twice....so they might make it as forzathon or prize cars or future car barn..or free dlc

When it comes to free content playground games tend to be more giving then turn 10

-- Last edit: 2018-09-10 06:12:15

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-10 06:10

also EB110 added in FH2 in a pack,though FH1 had it as standard

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-09-10 08:28

The 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse was also a paid DLC car in Forza Horizon 3, so it can definitely happen again...

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-10 08:59

Oh true I completely forgot about Eclipse ...was suprised not to see 812 superfast in the list

But yeah some recurring previous gen cars made it in as DLC...but considering eclispe was in 6 and in FH3 dlc...its odd

-- Last edit: 2018-09-10 09:00:01

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-10 10:48

So that means we can look forward to great car pack?or suck pack like FM7

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-10 15:48

Depends i didnt find FM7 that horrible dlc wise...it was weakest but overall I love classic racers and more odd cars...there were more off-roads then hoped.

Horizon overall tends to have more pleasing cars. And im pretty sure some of interesting cars like project one and valkryie and TVR are from car pass

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-10 17:00

Off Roads in track game....Only reason is making the list for FH4.Yet I do admit old race cars in FM7 are very good choices

solarriors CH (8)

2018-09-10 17:28

Damn no Mitsubishi and Toyotas, Rolls Royces.
At least VW changed their mind

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-10 18:06

But we got return of AH Ascari DBS and lots of other British cars

850CSi not in the official car list...So we lose another great car from the start

around September 13th comes the DEMO

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:41:40 (Klumb3r)

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-09-12 12:51

Damn what do we do about the already listed mitsubishis?

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-12 13:01

Remove the red stars?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-12 13:06

I prefer delete entry

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-12 15:18

solarriors wrote Damn no Mitsubishi and Toyotas, Rolls Royces.
At least VW changed their mind

Hi guys, I'm new
I checked official car list and really had a bad feel when saw these cars missed,
And Lexus didn't back from FH3,Ferrari 812,2019 911 GT3 RS not added from FM7 :(
And saw that the FORZA HORIZON 2 will stop selling in 1 October in Xbox marketplace :(
I still have PS4 and cant play it, just had short experience of it and love the series after that :(
I thought Horizon Series never stop selling in Xbox one cause for their Special map in each number.

And 2015 Mustang Removed I think, Only 2018 Available

I cant find 2018 Honda Civic in cars list :/

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:42:46 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-12 18:16

DEMO is out in MS store

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-12 19:50

Demo is 27gb......what the f*** ill just wait for the game

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-12 19:51

· 1964 Aston Martin DB5 inspired by Goldfinger (1964), Thunderball (1965), GoldenEye (1995), Skyfall (2012) and Spectre (2015)

· 1969 Aston Martin DBS from On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
· 1974 AMC Hornet X Hatchback from The Man With the Golden Gun (1974)
· 1977 Lotus Esprit S1 from The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
· 1981 Citroën 2CV6 from For Your Eyes Only (1981)
· 1986 Aston Martin V8 from The Living Daylights (1987)
· 1999 BMW Z8 from The World is Not Enough (1999)
· 2008 Aston Martin DBS from Quantum of Solace (2008)
· 2010 Jaguar C-X75 from Spectre (2015)
· 2015 Aston Martin DB10 from Spectre (2015)

Several of the cars in the pack will feature film-inspired gadgets that players will be able to view while in Forzavista mode. For example, the 1964 Aston Martin DB5 will feature numerous gadgets such as revolving number plate and extendable bumper rams. In addition, the Lotus Esprit S1 will feature a special body kit option inspired by the “Wet Nellie” submarine vehicle from The Spy Who Loved Me (1977).

In addition to the cars, players who own the James Bond Car Pack in Forza Horizon 4 will also receive some in-game Bond goodies, including two Bond outfits as well as six exclusive “Quick Chat” phrases for use in multiplayer.

so no Jensen,but we got another DBS (MK I)

-- Last edit: 2018-09-12 21:42:18 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-13 10:07

so if my guess is correct,Best Of Bond pack will feat. most of exclusive cars(DB5 is of course not)

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-13 13:01

If anyone have the demo, please say what cars we can start the game with?
I mean like FH2 where we could choose between 1969 camaro , 1998 Supra , 2011 Z4 or FH3 had 2014 M4 , 2000 Silvia Spec , 2014 HSV Maloo , 2016 Ford GT350R For Start :)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 13:05

2016 Focus Rs
2016 Audi TTS
1969 Dodge charger

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-09-13 13:05

Green Runner wrote
Hi guys, I'm new
I checked official car list and really had a bad feel when saw these cars missed,
And Lexus didn't back from FH3,Ferrari 812,2019 911 GT3 RS not added from FM7 :(
And saw that the FORZA HORIZON 2 will stop selling in 1 October in Xbox marketplace :(
I still have PS4 and cant play it, just had short experience of it and love the series after that :(
I thought Horizon Series never stop selling in Xbox one cause for their Special map in each number.

And 2015 Mustang Removed I think, Only 2018 Available

I cant find 2018 Honda Civic in cars list :/


If the game is hard to come by physically in your country I can work something out for you, find me on the IGCD discord - discord.gg/Z6JQPR
Just shoot me a friend request

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-13 13:57

Bumpercars45 wrote

If the game is hard to come by physically in your country I can work something out for you, find me on the IGCD discord - discord.gg/Z6JQPR
Just shoot me a friend request

Thank you bro, But in my country 1 dollar is 150000 Royal, that is my country currency , I cant buy anything right now , and another thing is I have PS4 :)

speedfreak975 wrote 2016 Focus Rs
2016 Audi TTS
1969 Dodge charger

Good :) , I think Focus RS is better for start, What do you think?

-- Last edit: 2018-09-19 05:40:31 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 14:04

Same have to drive a hothatch in Britain :) . Usually I go with Muscle cars but I do love 2016 Focus RS and it fits the area

-- Last edit: 2018-09-13 14:05:12

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-09-13 14:09

Green Runner wrote
Thank you bro, But in my country 1 dollar is 150000 Royal, that is my country currency , I cant buy anything right now , and another thing is I have PS4 :)

Fair enough, hopefully you can buy a hardcopy FH2 when you get your xbox :)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-13 14:12

Rally-SE037/Escort RS Cosworth/Impreza 22B

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-13 14:15

I had XBOX 360 in 7 gen , all of my friends except one of them had PS4, and that one had PC and XBOX ONE,he play with his PC much more than XBOX ONE, so I had to buy PS4 while I really Love XBOX ONE, and after near 2 years I found myself that Im really prefer racing games over than any other games, so I had wrong choice :/
I will Buy XBOX in next gen and never back to PS

-- Last edit: 2018-09-13 14:20:37

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 14:16

My gut tells me 037 lancia but I also like other two which fit UK mood more espacially the Cosi

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 14:18

Im actually thinking about buying ps4 in December when its cheap mainly for its exclusive while racing games are my favorite hence why i got Xbox one for Forza....i also love to get games like spiderman. Naughty dog games. God of war and detroit becomes human ...i will most definitely not sell my xbox . Forza is priority

Sony caters more to story oriented games ...which is my cup of tea

-- Last edit: 2018-09-13 14:20:34

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-13 14:26

speedfreak975 wrote Im actually thinking about buying ps4 in December when its cheap mainly for its exclusive while racing games are my favorite hence why i got Xbox one for Forza....i also love to get games like spiderman. Naughty dog games. God of war and detroit becomes human ...i will most definitely not sell my xbox . Forza is priority

Sony caters more to story oriented games ...which is my cup of tea

LIKE+1 :)

Bumpercars45 wrote
Fair enough, hopefully you can buy a hardcopy FH2 when you get your xbox :)

I heared Microsoft is creating somthing like PS NOW for maybe next gen of xbox, I hope they add all of horizon serise that built before next gen

-- Last edit: 2018-09-19 05:39:12 (Klumb3r)

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-09-13 15:04

The AI use Mitsubishis in the demo apparently...

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 16:32

Xbox already has backwards compatibility which seems better honestly. I just hope next gen has backwards compatibility for both consoles

But i guess it can come in hand (Ps now alike service) if the game is out of reach

Speedevil wrote The AI use Mitsubishis in the demo apparently...

Maybe they forgot to remove them.....lol

-- Last edit: 2018-09-19 05:39:18 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-13 16:54

Demo itself still buggy and crashy on Win10,wish the full game will be better

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 17:05

My laptop technically is higher spec than One S but I never even try to play MS exclusives on PC they are never as smooth sailing as xbox

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-09-13 17:21

Surprisingly this game runs on my PC. Poorly, but it runs. The FH3 demo ran at maybe half speed, which was horrible, and FM7 had that weird memory leak that made geometry disappear, and coupled with the damaged hard drive I used at the time it was really bad. Looks like they've finally figured out how to port games to PC!

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 17:34

Yeah they did say FH4 will have lower specs and be better than FH3 because FH3 was their 1st port and it wasnt that good

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-13 17:52

to be exact,first port is the rubbish FM6 APEX....Thats way worse than FH3 or FM7

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-13 18:21

Thats not full game port and it was PC only...I'm talking about legit 1st PC port which is FH3. And yes apex was awful in everyway it had 0 optimization

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-13 18:59

This year wasnt good for Microsoft, only FH4 can make a big change, Im so excited :)

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-09-13 19:46

Speedevil wrote The AI use Mitsubishis in the demo apparently...


Maybe the demo is based off an earlier build of the game, probably from right before they announced Mitsubishi wasn't going to be in the game.

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-09-13 20:43

I no longer like Mitsubishi.
Vauxhall is now my favorite.

konkordski UK (28)

2018-09-13 22:33

Gagarsa06 wrote I no longer like Mitsubishi.
Vauxhall is now my favorite.

friendship ended with mitsubishi
now vauxhall is my best friend

Green Runner IR (0)

2018-09-14 13:11

I have feeling this game can achive a META higher than 90%, Its not Important for me seriously, but really can make this game to be Top Seller easily :sun:

-- Last edit: 2018-09-14 13:16:47

MartinBond NL (6)

2018-09-16 13:29

J-2 wrote OK, so the list of users doing pics for FH4 is as follows:

- J-2
- MartinBond
- solarriors
- speedfreak975

With us 4 I think it's more than enough. I think the best approach to doing this is first come, first served. If you want to reserve yourself a certain car just add a comment saying so and others will skip it, let's see if you agree with this method.


If I can do the obvious(looking at my gamertag, name here and the fact that about 90% of my comments are about Bond) and ask for the privilege and honour to do the Bond Pack, that's all I really, super want to do, as it contains cars I've been requesting since Forza 3. Apart from that, you guys please feel free to divide all the other ones, becuase after the Bond Pack I'm already in heaven :P

[edit] Bought the Ultimate with early access, so timing shouldn't be an issue either. I can't wait, these 2 weeks are gonna be so long!

-- Last edit: 2018-09-16 13:30:16

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-16 14:20

How about we 4 open a group on xbox live and chat indetails there on how all 450+ cars will be divided

Considering there is xbox app on mobile ? Any thoughts

Because I'd rather do a bunch then post them all together

-- Last edit: 2018-09-16 14:48:44

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-16 15:03

Anyone know what's the plane in Chiron level?

MartinBond NL (6)

2018-09-16 20:10

speedfreak975 wrote How about we 4 open a group on xbox live and chat indetails there on how all 450+ cars will be divided

Considering there is xbox app on mobile ? Any thoughts

Because I'd rather do a bunch then post them all together


DeBleuchamp reporting for duty.
J-2, I take it your name is your gamertag too?

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-09-16 21:01

MartinBond wrote

DeBleuchamp reporting for duty.
J-2, I take it your name is your gamertag too?


It's JorgePinto. But I just thought of a better way, I just made this spreadsheet: bit.ly/2QAV4kQ

We can simply add our names next to the cars we want to do (or will do if nobody is interested) and keep control of everything.

MartinBond NL (6)

2018-09-16 21:23

Sounds good to me. Haven't worked with Google Docs before, but how hard can it be ;)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-16 21:43

Gave spreadsheet a try , not all cars just locked in some in as a testdrive

Also each one GT in a color then when its full with names its easier to tell

-- Last edit: 2018-09-16 21:59:27

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-17 14:42

Volvo 1800 is also not in the list....and not in Bond pack... so delete?

Mitsubishi out of the list mainly for their strong intention to add new SUV in the list and got refused

-- Last edit: 2018-09-19 05:38:35 (Klumb3r)

cyrus khan PK (0)

2018-09-18 14:31

Mitsubishi and Ford did what in real world?

Ford: Pulling off their sedan production from North America to focus on SUVs, crosses, pickups, and a mustang.

Mitubishi: Did same thing leaving lancer production in CHina and Taiwan, and mirage and SUV's crosses and pickups worldwide.

in game Toyota, VOlkswagen, Ferrari and Mitsubishi did their exclusions. ferrari in payback and mitsubishi in fh4, vw in fh3 and toyota everywhere until 2018 end.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-18 14:37

cyrus khan wrote Mitsubishi and Ford did what in real world?

Ford: Pulling off their sedan production from North America to focus on SUVs, crosses, pickups, and a mustang.

Mitubishi: Did same thing leaving lancer production in CHina and Taiwan, and mirage and SUV's crosses and pickups worldwide.

in game Toyota, VOlkswagen, Ferrari and Mitsubishi did their exclusions. ferrari in payback and mitsubishi in fh4, vw in fh3 and toyota everywhere until 2018 end.

Toyota's fobidden of Racing games stops in 2018?

pre-download starts today

BEST OF BOND TRAILER IS OUT

-- Last edit: 2018-09-19 05:38:13 (Klumb3r)

cyrus khan PK (0)

2018-09-18 18:50

ALMF-3512 wrote Mitsubishi out of the list mainly for their strong intention to add new SUV in the list and got refused

It's not big deal that they won't include evos if discontinued.

ALMF-3512 wrote Toyota's fobidden of Racing games stops in 2018?

This Toyota issue will exist until 2018, it's true and confirmed. Forza stated that they will release games as Horizon 4 in 2018, motorsport 8 in 2019, horizon 5 in 2020 then motorsport 9 in 2021. so Toyota issue seems to be resolved. this issue states that "higher virtual sales rather than real sales which costs money" this is the statement of toyota. motorsport 7 was the first to face.

Well until the matter resolved, enjoy the BRZ. This issue only happens with Non-Japanese game developers, project cars and GT sport is Japansese game.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-18 19:13

Project cars is British with a japanese publsiher but they suffered like Forza. Only Polyphony got Street legal toyotas

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-09-18 19:24

The only reason why there are Toyota Arctic Trucks (and the trophy truck most likely) in this game is because Toyota isn't the license holder. Same thing with the NASCAR Camries in FM7.

-- Last edit: 2018-09-18 19:25:07

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-18 19:26

so based on the trailer,DB5 will have almost full Bond spec,Esprit will have a Submarine body kit(but still a car)Z8 will have gadgets.DB10's gadgets aren't shown,so maybe not(consider it has flamethrower)and every car's scene is a mock-up of the scene from films

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-18 19:51

cyrus khan wrote
This Toyota issue will exist until 2018, it's true and confirmed. Forza stated that they will release games as Horizon 4 in 2018, motorsport 8 in 2019, horizon 5 in 2020 then motorsport 9 in 2021. so Toyota issue seems to be resolved. this issue states that "higher virtual sales rather than real sales which costs money" this is the statement of toyota. motorsport 7 was the first to face.

Well until the matter resolved, enjoy the BRZ. This issue only happens with Non-Japanese game developers, project cars and GT sport is Japansese game.

So, there will most likely be a Toyota DLC? Oh great...

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-19 02:58

In the trailer,plate number and scenes are all highly recreated.Nice job

But they change it all back to HORIZON in promo shots

-- Last edit: 2018-09-19 05:39:54 (Klumb3r)

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-19 18:05

The Bond car pack seems like a failure. I mean, most of the cars are inaccurate and/or just recycled from previous Forzas.

Disappointing to say the least, considering how much they supposedly value authenticity and heritage...

Edit: Only thing that has me wondering are the tire cutters on the DB5 that seem engaged at any given moment. I think they'll just clip through everything they 'touch' but I could be wrong.

solarriors wrote I added my antique gamertag (PC at the time) from 1998, maybe 1996 which is solarriors. Please feel free to add me, I'll accept the requests, maybe say you're from IGCD if I can't recognize your name.
Would be cool to have some races and free roaming like cruising in group between us and discuss about things we love.

Do you speak German by any chance?

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:31:03 (Klumb3r)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-19 18:44

I think Bond pack is the best ever,I know there are lots of car just return as part of a pack(V8/DB5/Z8/2CV....)But consider FH4 sets in GB,007 is the perfect movie theme for the game,also quite rare to see recent gane focus on Movie/TVcars

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-19 20:22

speedfreak975 wrote scanning all the actual bond cars

This has absolutely nothing to do with not being able to scan the cars, I mean they could have just modified the existing cars to better resemble the actual bond cars but they didn't even do that very well.

When I even see US-Spec left-hand drive cars in a UK themed Car Pack (in a UK themed racing game that comes from people who always say how they want to accurately represent the UK and its culture) it just makes me mad. And when they're not able to do it properly because of financial issues they should just leave it alone.

Of course, you'll disagree because 'it doesn't have to be that accurate, they don't have an infinite budget'


speedfreak975 wrote Yeah I do agree some models could have been altered better (they could have atleast removed the US reflectors that is lazy). But yes this isnt a fairyland no game has an infinte budget (that points stands on all game franchsies not just forza).

also its not financial issues...its financial management.

Well, they obviously had enough budget to develope all those characters animations that nobody wanted but let's not get into that.


speedfreak975 wrote I do agree on that...But I'm pretty sure they saw how Cancerous fortnite emotes appealed to large portion of masses....sadly and decided to invest in that espacilaly that emotes are in almost all online games and this focuses on shared world. Not smartest investment on their behalf


Zordid wrote let's not get into that.


-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:30:38 (Klumb3r)

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2018-09-19 21:36

is not budget issue is lazy.....................

solarriors CH (8)

2018-09-20 01:46

Let's remember it's not PG who are making the car models and they outsource the creation. I still agree the US Spec and exact recycling is lazy. Hopefully the cars have aero mods and body kits
@Zordid :Ja klar kann ich Deutsch. Ich wohne ja in der Schweiz. :)

-- Last edit: 2018-09-20 01:47:24

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-20 07:16

In der Schweiz gibt es auch genug Leute, die Französisch sprechen.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-20 16:11

J-2 I added 2019 Ford Ranger Raptor to spreadsheet considering it was confirmed at gamescom its coming to the game

solarriors CH (8)

2018-09-20 19:28

Ich kann es alles, auch serbo-kroatisch, russisch, spanisch und chinesisch
[edit](Sorry for the private banter)

-- Last edit: 2018-09-20 19:29:11

Zordid DE (3)

2018-09-20 20:07

Na, schon mal mehr als ich...

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-21 12:56

first pack leaked
4 weeks with 2 cars each week
Agera RS/Triumph TR3B
Sentra Nismo/FD Spirit R
959 Rally Raid/356A 1600 Super Coupe
Civic GRC/i8 Roadster 2018


Today's FH4 Update
- TRI_TR3_62
- POR_911GT3RS_18
- POR_356ACoupe_59
- POR_186_959_86
- NIS_SentraNismo_18
- MAZ_RX7SpiritR_02
- KOE_AgeraRS_17
- HON_CivicGRC_H4_16
- HON_CivicTypeR_18
- HOL_CommodoreVK_85
- GTA_Spano_16
- FER_812Superfast_18
- CHE_ColoradoZR2_17
- CHE_BelAir_57
- PAG_ZondaR_HE_10
- PAG_ZondaR_10
- FER_F151_11
- FER_355Berlinetta_94
- DOD_ChargerRT_69
- WM_LykanHyperSport_16
- TAT_Fortuna_18

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:29:59 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-21 13:37

Thats odd they usually release all at once...also usually 7 those are 8 unless one free car like FH2

Also most of these cars arnt there at launch like GT3 and 812. Maybe they will be events and forzathon

-- Last edit: 2018-09-21 13:39:18

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-21 13:40

PG stated that they change the plan for FH4,2 cars a week.to make the game still attractive for rest of the month

Antti-san FI (38)

2018-09-21 13:41

speedfreak975 wrote Thats odd they usually release all at once...also usually 7 those are 8 unless one free car like FH2

This new schedule was announced a long time ago, though. :p

-- Last edit: 2018-09-21 13:50:21

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-21 14:04

I dont follow everything they do lol. New dlc plan sounds solid....but reminds me of mobile daily rewards...so I'm 50-50 on that

Are the missing cars that are in dlc leak confirmed like 959 raid ?

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:29:29 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-21 15:04

Might be updating it or somthing...whats the TAT_Fortune_18 tjo

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-21 16:08

Tamo Racemo

959 Raid and TR3 are the 2 interested me most

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:29:15 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-21 17:07

No ive seen tamo id . It isnt that

Intrested if the Agera RS reachs its 285mph speed

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:29:00 (Klumb3r)

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-09-22 16:22

Honestly, that DLC plan makes a little more sense, since it will mean 8 cars a month instead of the usual 7. Throw on top of that the likely new models showing up in Forzathon events, and I think we've got a winning content plan here.

Also, FER_F151_11...that's the FF, correct? Because I think F151 is the chassis code for the FF.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-22 16:37

Yes 151 is FF

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-22 17:41

I wonder which class will the 959 Raid be in.959 itself is a retro supercar, but Raid car can be extreme off road

sadly Toyota still refuse to put sports car into game, or we can have 2000GT in the Bond pack

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:28:41 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-23 17:06

It will be with offroad or extreme offroad, did they specify whats the VIP (the cars). I know we get 4.2 million dollar property for free

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 17:06:32

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-23 18:29

Name: The Gables
Cost: Free (first house)
Reward: Drone Mode

Name: Sunflower Meadows
Cost: 200,000cr
Reward: Green Wellies (clothing), Super Wheelspin

Name: Croftdale Farm
Cost: 200,000cr
Reward: Sheep (Horn), Super Wheelspin

Name: Kingfisher Cottage
Cost: 350,000cr
Reward: Rubber Ducky Horn, Wheelspin

Name: Thatch Corner
Cost: 500,000cr
Reward: "Are We There Yet" chat phrase, 2 Super Wheelspins

Name: Castleview Road
Cost: 750,000cr
Reward: Red Velvet Blazer, 3 Super Wheelspins

Name: The Huntsman's Lodge
Cost: 750,000cr
Reward: Skill Songs are unlocked on the radio, 3 Super Wheelspins

Name: Derwent Mansion
Cost: 1,500,000cr
Reward: Golden Tank Top, 5 Super Wheelspins

Name: Fairlawn Manor
Cost: 2,000,000cr
Reward: Fast Travel Anywhere, Silver Top Hat, 10 Super Wheelspins

Name: Lake Lodge
Cost: 5,000,000cr or Free w/VIP
Reward: 5 Super Wheelspins, Double #Forzathon Points

Name: Bamburgh Castle
Cost: 10,000,000cr
Reward: Barn Find Rumor, 10 Super Wheelspins

Name: Edinburgh Castle
Cost: 15,000,000cr
Reward: Alfa Romeo P3, 10 Super Wheelspins


guess that Barn Find is the Blower

-- Last edit: 2018-09-23 19:28:15 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-25 17:11

Game reviews are very positive with lowest being 8/10. Metacritic (47 reviews) 92/100..

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-25 19:15

Personally I don't like the idea of house and car mastery.Especially when they just reuse the idea of skill shop and adapt it to individual cars seperatly.As for the house,it is too expensive,and contains cars and other thing that shouldn't be treated as part of the house(like the Blower Barn Find/drone/skill song/Fast Travel Anywhere)
Another thing that worries me is FH4 focused heavily on online features,while people like me prefer solo,and while FH4 allowed offline SP mode,it will lack lots of things in SP,which is unfair
Also,consider the races are not rich rewarding compare to the price of house and perks.The whole progression of the game may be very difficult

-- Last edit: 2018-09-25 19:19:37

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-25 19:27

How is progression in it difficult ? If anything horizon tries to be as forgiving as ir can...just because you arent handed everything easily....doesnt mean its bad. Also hosue and perks are normal they dont make or break the game...if anything horizon series has been guilty in the past is it being to kind with money for players

Also SP is just like FH3...only major things you'll lack is forzathon live and seeing other ghosted players .

-- Last edit: 2018-09-25 19:35:05

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-25 19:36

speedfreak975 wrote How is progression in it difficult ? If anything horizon tries to be as forgiving as ir can...just because you arent handed everything easily....doesnt mean its bad. Also hosue and perks are normal they dont make or break the game...if anything horizon series has been guilty in the past is it being to kind with money for players

Also SP is just like FH3...only major things you'll lack is forzathon live and seeing other ghosted players

So when I say difficult,I mean to get certain things such as the Barn Find and other necessary perk(like fast travel) become sth. needs credits to buy,and quite a huge amount if for the Barn Find,that kind of harden the game.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-25 19:39

Not everything is supposed to be easy...the game literally showers you with money,cars and wheelspins at the beginning

you want hard try finishing legendary multiverse in injustice 2...Ive played that game over 200hrs and ive only completed 50% of one event out of 33 with one of hardest requirements play 3000 minutes with same character

-- Last edit: 2018-09-25 19:40:55

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-25 19:40

OK I can accept that

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-26 05:12

Yeah full game. Post in entry itself and the photo that needs changing post it via link and admins will change it.

Also screenshots are way better than taking actual photo and uploading it to forza site...i stopped doing that since FH2

-- Last edit: 2018-09-26 05:13:49

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-26 05:16

Though not very possible,I still wish they bring back 62 Lincoln Conti from FM4,rather than the new Conti that they can reuse from FM7

cyrus khan PK (0)

2018-09-26 21:40

Zordid wrote
So, there will most likely be a Toyota DLC? Oh great...


Yes it should, come on bid it. Could be pre order or dlc for free download.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-27 02:15

pre order pack is Fomula Drift pack

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-28 05:40

The game launched for digital Ultimate owners
I ordered steelbook hardcopy so it might take me longer to get

-- Last edit: 2018-09-28 05:41:45

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-28 06:26

4 free cars of 1st month are
812 superfast
911 GT3 2019
Chevy colorado
2018 Civic Type R

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-28 07:12

the movie stuntman challenge are really more of a high-octane explosion from FF series than a real legit movie hero chase.The only one that feels like a good movie chase is the low-budget version of C'était un rendez-vous,which is the short film Clarkson replicated back in Chiron film from TGT S02,but since it's a low-budget version,the car is now an A110 rather than 275 for the engine sound of the original or a Chiron like Clarkson used

twingo FR (0)

2018-09-28 13:24

ALMF-3512 wrote the movie stuntman challenge are really more of a high-octane explosion from FF series than a real legit movie hero chase.The only one that feels like a good movie chase is the low-budget version of C'était un rendez-vous,which is the short film Clarkson replicated back in Chiron film from TGT S02,but since it's a low-budget version,the car is now an A110 rather than 275 for the engine sound of the original or a Chiron like Clarkson used


What?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-28 18:12

The full game crash a lot,way more than the demo,and since it crash almost right after every event,the game is nearly unplayable

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-28 20:46

Im guessing free exclusive car likes of 911 GT3 Rs 2019 are only availabe from forzathon shop because I was watching video and saw it there

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-29 04:48

GT3 RS is confirmed as a Forzathon shop car, 812 and FK8 aren't seen right now (though NPC does drive a 812SF)

also 917 is the 917/20 Pink Pig, not LH, can be bought from autoshow with credit

but if they bring back the pink pig, will they also bring back the Moby Dick?

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 08:03:40 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-29 06:51

They could give us new 2019 Porsche 935...but thats long shot

-- Last edit: 2018-09-29 06:59:55

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-29 07:13

I prefer the iconic 935/78 MD from FM7, since the pink pig is a return from FM7, this is possible

there's also a series of classical video game tribute challenge,including
Outrun
Crazy Taxi
Smuggler's run
Porsche Unleashed
PGR
and some more

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 08:03:10 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-29 15:10

Yeah there is the Edinburgh Prince circuit from PGR2 and a series where cars from classic games are driven.

Game is full of easter eggs to older racers

-- Last edit: 2018-09-29 15:11:53

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-30 03:30

they put the Porsche Unleashed challenge as the last No.1 pick,maybe because they finally signed a deal with Porsche since FM7

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-09-30 10:42

Biggest bummer in this game to me is that it has no class based rivals mode...maybe they are working on better clean/dirty system espacially for offroad ...and it will come in later hopefully

-- Last edit: 2018-09-30 10:44:02

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-09-30 11:14

So GTI and Range Rover aren't in the Barn Find list,if we can buy GTI from autoshow,how to get the Range Rover MK1?

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-02 01:37

By the way lovely people I will need some people to act for my scenes. More details in private, but I can promise a nice surprise.
For the photos also I'll take two same cars at the same time to show some variants, like I did here :
photos.app.goo.gl/74VQHrVVsDFtCQUk9

-- Last edit: 2018-10-02 02:56:52

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-02 07:25

For the entries ? Or personal images ? Because Id like to get some group shots when I finally receive my copy. as entries go the car has to be zoomed in taking almost 9/9 out of composition

-- Last edit: 2018-10-02 07:41:48

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-10-02 09:12

I heard this game doesn't have leaderboards? What are they thinking?

-- Last edit: 2018-10-02 09:12:27

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-02 13:31

Yeah at launch no class based leaderboards....maybe later like FM7

Well i was reading forums and majority where like there are leaderboards and rivals in horizon games :/

I guess competitive people like me are minority. Hopefully it gets added later on

-- Last edit: 2018-10-02 13:36:02

RushCars24 ID (49)

2018-10-02 15:46

The game has been released now, and in fact, it was released at the same time with 2018 Paris Motor Show. :whistle:

That makes sense if T10 originally releases a DLC to mark the opening of 2018 Paris Motor Show, here's a concept idea explanation that I have...

The Stars of 2018 Paris Motor Show DLC Pack:
- 2019 BMW Z4 [G29]
- 2019 Kia cee'd GT
- 2019 Kia ProCeed GT
- 2019 Mercedes-AMG A 35 [W177]
- 2018 Peugeot e-Legend
- 2018 Porsche 911 Speedster Concept II [991]
- 2019 Porsche 935 [991]
- 2019 Audi SQ2
- 2019 BMW 330i M Sport [G20]
- 2019 Škoda Kodiaq RS

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-02 15:48

DLC cars are scanned pre launch and determined prior weeks of launch. Unless a brand itself wants to advertise its cars or some sort like that. Z4 might actually make it because a variant was revealed before

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-02 20:15

And no pack has ever only one kind of car. This one has only brand new cars.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-03 01:27

Allstar pack from FH3 feat. new racer only

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-03 02:20

Forza Horizon 4 is Wonderfuuul !!
From the improved physics (yess !) to the interesting environements, with plenty of details in the gameplay, the amazing Car Roster, oh and what about that music <3<3<3 The game feels, smells and tastes Love just like they did with the very first Horizon !

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 02:21:37

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-03 06:58

Easy money :
max perks of all Formula D cars and you'll get 2.1 million dollars. (There is certain perk in each that gives 300k)

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 07:12:59

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-03 07:37

such bonus only available on FD cars?

also, any more easy money method?

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 08:02:47 (Klumb3r)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-03 08:45

That Im aware off. I still dont have game at my disposal but I'm seeing videos. There are easy money methods havent checked them though.

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-10-03 21:31

People...I hate to say it, but I must.

I'm OK with more people helping out of course, but we already had a built team and only 4 people expressed interest back in the day, Loek just came out of nowhere*, and I don't want to see this page become a mess, so please, if anyone is also interested please say so instead of just doing it, but virtually all cars were aleady assigned for the current team. In fact...speedfreak, you assigned some cars for you and you're not doing them now?

*It's about planning, nothing personal against you. But even if someone wants to give you a space in the team (which I'm also OK about it, I just ask for communication pleae) your pics are not valid, your cars have custom designs with painted plates and all cars have to be fully stock.

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-03 21:49

J-2 wrote People...I hate to say it, but I must.

I'm OK with more people helping out of course, but we already had a built team and only 4 people expressed interest back in the day, Loek just came out of nowhere*, and I don't want to see this page become a mess, so please, if anyone is also interested please say so instead of just doing it, but virtually all cars were aleady assigned for the current team. In fact...speedfreak, you assigned some cars for you and you're not doing them now?

*It's about planning, nothing personal against you. But even if someone wants to give you a space in the team (which I'm also OK about it, I just ask for communication pleae) your pics are not valid, your cars have custom designs with painted plates and all cars have to be fully stock.

That's why we have Discord, to prevent things like this...

Loek NL (8)

2018-10-03 21:53

J-2 wrote People...I hate to say it, but I must.

I'm OK with more people helping out of course, but we already had a built team and only 4 people expressed interest back in the day, Loek just came out of nowhere*, and I don't want to see this page become a mess, so please, if anyone is also interested please say so instead of just doing it, but virtually all cars were aleady assigned for the current team. In fact...speedfreak, you assigned some cars for you and you're not doing them now?

*It's about planning, nothing personal against you. But even if someone wants to give you a space in the team (which I'm also OK about it, I just ask for communication pleae) your pics are not valid, your cars have custom designs with painted plates and all cars have to be fully stock.


I assumed that considering this is an open site with an open download button, any pictures would've been welcome. If that causes a stir, I'm sorry. But I couldn't have known because it wasn't said here.

If my pictures are not okay, then I'm okay if you don't use them. But I thought it would be a nice help because I've had some pictures laying around so that you guys don't need to find every car...

I have some pre-made pictures left of the Volvo V60 Polestar and the McLaren 720S, if you happen to need them, I have them ready. I thought plates were okay, but some of my pictures don't have them.

Anyway, now that we're on the subject, if I can be part of the team I would be all too happy to do so, if that's not too big of a hassle now. If not, no hard feelings, but I'd like it.

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 22:01:24

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-03 22:10

To be fair the announcement and discussion was made on FM7 page month ago and then it moved to google sheets were we assigned and divided the cars. And we have been communicating on xbox live... to assure everything is clear

Personally I wont post until I have buck of my assigned cars done instead of one by one. If thats okay

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 22:24:26

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-10-03 22:17

Loek wrote

I assumed that considering this is an open site with an open download button, any pictures would've been welcome. If that causes a stir, I'm sorry. But I couldn't have known because it wasn't said here.

If my pictures are not okay, then I'm okay if you don't use them. But I thought it would be a nice help because I've had some pictures laying around so that you guys don't need to find every car...

I have some pre-made pictures left of the Volvo V60 Polestar and the McLaren 720S, if you happen to need them, I have them ready. I thought plates were okay, but some of my pictures don't have them.


Again, I'm sorry because it's nothing against you at all, but the situation is what it is. It's true the team was built in FM7's page, but MartinBond quoted me here with this message:

J-2 wrote
OK, so the list of users doing pics for FH4 is as follows:

- J-2
- MartinBond
- solarriors
- speedfreak975

With us 4 I think it's more than enough. I think the best approach to doing this is first come, first served. If you want to reserve yourself a certain car just add a comment saying so and others will skip it, let's see if you agree with this method.


After that we used a Google Spreadsheet to choose what cars we wanted to do, it was all about having FH4 a bit organized, that's all. I just realised I always tried to be too much in control, and it has always been a problem...

But after all these years, the last thing I want is to become the bad guy here or just look like a grumpy old man, so, after think about it for quite a time inside my mind for quite a while now, I just made the decision: it's all yours now. Do as you please, I think it's better for me to fully retire before I fully fall into a bad image after all these years, maybe the semi-retirement idea and the team thing was a bad idea, who knows...I have to say I had the idea on my mind for quite a while but I wasn't ready to do the step, and I don't want you to think this is because of this single issue, it comes way further than that, this is just one more thing, but IGCD should indeed be about freedom after all, but there is no middle term, I ended up keeping Forza to myself for years and years, and now I can't deal with how it's supposed to be, maybe it was a mistake back then, but it's my own problem, I can recognise it, and the best thing for all I think is to give way...so with all my best wishes, now it's really a farewell. Maybe not forever, I'll always come by to have a look and leave a comment here and there, I still love this web of course (And I would want to ask Rinspeed to keep my admin status, so I can give a hand from time to time with edits and stuff maybe), but I think it's time for young blood to take the spot.

Please take good care of Forza and the other IGCD pages, they really deserve to be something special, they have always been, and I'm sure they will always be, I hope I just leave a good memory here. I simply think it's better to step out before you become the villain...I'm quite tearful to be honest, it's been a great ride.

Thank you for all these great years...and goodbye everyone!

Loek NL (8)

2018-10-03 22:46

Oh man I really didn't want to influence it in a way you need to leave... I broke into your organised page, it has to do with me. If I can be part of your organisation I will be all too happy, if not, I'll stop adding my pictures here. I really don't see you as a grumpy old man, but somebody who wants to get the Triple A games organised. That takes a bit of thought on an open website, again, sorry for not understanding that.

The last thing I want is trying to help resulting in people leaving... Please don't do it because of me. I'm really sorry.

J-2 ES (1391)

2018-10-03 22:57

Don't worry, I'm being honest here, this is about myself, you can all have my word on this. I really didn't want to go, but I couldn't handle it anymore, I guess I became old suddently or something, but the passion and time I had before is no longer there, I simply snapped, that's why I think I just should simply do this instead of overcomplicating things, but I think it's not too late.

Again, sorry if this still looks like it came out of nowhere, I guess I wasn't sure on what to do now, but now I am, it's not easy, but I prefer ending on my peak rather than just melt away...

Fianlly, as I said, I'll still be around checking how things move, and dropping a comment every now and then, and even if now I'm really tempted to say I will continue eventually...back to square one, I need it, but I was too sad to accept it. Anything you need, I'll be here to answer you guys!

-- Last edit: 2018-10-03 22:58:05

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-04 03:34

I'm impressed by your speech J-2. It's very honest and objective I'd say. Please stay around don't let the young blood fly on their own so early ;-)
The first week Forzathon is already over?! The Ferrari and Porsche are already gone :((

-- Last edit: 2018-10-04 04:05:55

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-10-04 06:07

I say we post who is doing who, even if it has been known for months (just for people new to different pages), as early as possible on the specific game page to keep it transparent as possible

-- Last edit: 2018-10-04 06:09:25

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-04 06:21

We could post whos responsible for what but wouldnt admins consider it spam. I cant spam reserved on over 50 cars

Admins are you okay if on each page someone says whos responsible for it (based on spreadsheet we made)

-- Last edit: 2018-10-04 06:44:21

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-04 06:48

Let's make a spreadsheet for every AAA game from now on. And we should avoid publishing pagea of random internet/mobile game clones.
And important the discussion we're having, should take place on the Discord channel. Please add a direct link in the website header above !
My photos (IGCD or not) :
1drv.ms/f/s!Auu3wXDct6V6jEUD1F0z-j5iMmNZ

-- Last edit: 2018-10-04 06:49:43

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-04 12:09

solarriors wrote Let's make a spreadsheet for every AAA game from now on. And we should avoid publishing pagea of random internet/mobile game clones.
And important the discussion we're having, should take place on the Discord channel. Please add a direct link in the website header above !
My photos (IGCD or not) :
1drv.ms/f/s!Auu3wXDct6V6jEUD1F0z-j5iMmNZ

That's exact reason we made Discord. To return site to it's original purpose, talking about vehicles and identifying them.
I will talk to Rinspeed to get Discord link on website header.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-04 15:46

What are the seasonal Barn Finds?

Chesty KY (63)

2018-10-04 18:33

J-2 wrote

Again, I'm sorry because it's nothing against you at all, but the situation is what it is. It's true the team was built in FM7's page, but MartinBond quoted me here with this message:



After that we used a Google Spreadsheet to choose what cars we wanted to do, it was all about having FH4 a bit organized, that's all. I just realised I always tried to be too much in control, and it has always been a problem...

But after all these years, the last thing I want is to become the bad guy here or just look like a grumpy old man, so, after think about it for quite a time inside my mind for quite a while now, I just made the decision: it's all yours now. Do as you please, I think it's better for me to fully retire before I fully fall into a bad image after all these years, maybe the semi-retirement idea and the team thing was a bad idea, who knows...I have to say I had the idea on my mind for quite a while but I wasn't ready to do the step, and I don't want you to think this is because of this single issue, it comes way further than that, this is just one more thing, but IGCD should indeed be about freedom after all, but there is no middle term, I ended up keeping Forza to myself for years and years, and now I can't deal with how it's supposed to be, maybe it was a mistake back then, but it's my own problem, I can recognise it, and the best thing for all I think is to give way...so with all my best wishes, now it's really a farewell. Maybe not forever, I'll always come by to have a look and leave a comment here and there, I still love this web of course (And I would want to ask Rinspeed to keep my admin status, so I can give a hand from time to time with edits and stuff maybe), but I think it's time for young blood to take the spot.

Please take good care of Forza and the other IGCD pages, they really deserve to be something special, they have always been, and I'm sure they will always be, I hope I just leave a good memory here. I simply think it's better to step out before you become the villain...I'm quite tearful to be honest, it's been a great ride.

Thank you for all these great years...and goodbye everyone!


I want to say something that needs to be said J-2 has done a good job making sure FH4 is organised and he felt responsible he was in control, people ha a problem with that, well there is a saying in the Cayman Islands if you can't stand thr heat get out of the kitchen and another thing we should be grateful that J-2 gave up his time time to contribute the this community he is not a bad guy or a grumpy old man and I hope rinspeed keeps your admin status
respect old friend

-- Last edit: 2018-10-04 18:33:39

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-04 18:50

autumn Barn Find—DB4GTZ

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-05 14:34

Solarroirs place the image links for each car in its respective entry.

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-07 01:09

Who wants to play Forza Horizon 4 sometime, add me :) GT: solarriors

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-09 08:50

For those who will post 911 GT1 to the list,the GT1 is always 993 chassis,regardless of street or racer,the only change is the body,not the chassis

konkordski UK (28)

2018-10-09 14:00

ALMF-3512 wrote For those who will post 911 GT1 to the list,the GT1 is always 993 chassis,regardless of street or racer,the only change is the body,not the chassis

i'm having doubts on that (unless you show links that show all 911 gt1s are 993 chassis. mind you, there are 3 iterations of that car), the 911 gt1-98 has a different chassis.

-- Last edit: 2018-10-09 14:07:11

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-09 14:44

konkordski wrote
i'm having doubts on that (unless you show links that show all 911 gt1s are 993 chassis. mind you, there are 3 iterations of that car), the 911 gt1-98 has a different chassis.

www.speedhunters.com/2010/04/retrospective_porsche_911_gt1_98/
this article of speedhunters said GT1 used then-new 911 chassis,and 1998 is the last year for 993 generation,after 1998 there's no official 911 GT1 and 993 was replaced.Or if the GT1 has its own chassis,then it shouldn't have any chassis number at all

-- Last edit: 2018-10-10 03:31:34

Pablo198989 PL (1)

2018-10-09 14:51

look at that :D
www.gamereactor.eu/news/699443/You+can+see+the+Windows+XP+desktop+in+Forza+Horizon+4/

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-10 00:43

Uploads link : 1drv.ms/f/s!Auu3wXDct6V6jEUD1F0z-j5iMmNZ

MartinBond NL (6)

2018-10-11 11:15

J-2 wrote

It's JorgePinto. But I just thought of a better way, I just made this spreadsheet: bit.ly/2QAV4kQ

We can simply add our names next to the cars we want to do (or will do if nobody is interested) and keep control of everything.

I'll start uploading my tagged cars this weekend as I'll have myself some time to sort out my archive :)

MartinBond NL (6)

2018-10-13 08:25

I think we should leave it as is. There are already some cars that were reserved that other people have done without checking the list and it just creates confusion and annoyances, people end up choosing speed over quality and that's never a good thing. If you have a rare car that someone else said they'd do, you can always ask if it's OK if you do it instead (:

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-15 15:49

If the car pack cars come weekly,we wont get a trailer for each pack,correct?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-15 19:33

70 Coronet Super Bee and FK8 Type R confirmed

Zordid DE (3)

2018-10-15 22:56

ALMF-3512 wrote 70 Coronet Super Bee confirmed

What? Where?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-16 02:45

www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/forza-horizon-4-master-car-list.378958/page-13
post 363

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-16 11:00

Solarriors, why don't you get interior shots at same time as front and rear?

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-16 14:22

Because it's not the same mod and I have to disable the HUD every time. So I'll do it when I'm done with cars. I honestly don't fancy cockpit photos because it's not a photo. Butt don't worry :)

-- Last edit: 2018-10-16 14:23:23

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-16 14:44

solarriors wrote Because it's not the same mod and I have to disable the HUD every time. So I'll do it when I'm done with cars. I honestly don't fancy cockpit photos because it's not a photo. Butt don't worry :)

ok :)

MTP02 PL (3)

2018-10-16 17:56

Lots of Austoshow cars missing and wheelspin ones.

ThatBus UK (0)

2018-10-16 23:05

Not even one bus? :??:
I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed. :(
I know, this game isn't about buses, but seriously? Not even one? As traffic?
Well, at least there's a taxi. :)

-- Last edit: 2018-10-16 23:08:25

Klumb3r CL (464)

2018-10-16 23:16

ThatBus wrote Not even one bus?

igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=164700

The game isn't yet complete, there are still many vehicles to add, and I think in the traffic as well

Zordid DE (3)

2018-10-17 11:43

ALMF-3512 wrote https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/forza-horizon-4-master-car-list.378958/page-13
post 363


That's a pre-release screenshot. I doubt that it's coming with DLC.

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-20 06:12

Don't spoil the Spring Barn Find. But it's a nice car :)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-20 14:27

With the new way car pack provides cars,there wont be any guessing for car clues

Purehell JP (30)

2018-10-20 23:30

There are three special models in this game.
Two McLaren Senna for the tutorial, and Chevrolet Bel Air HS used in the mission of LaRacer@Horizon.
These cars can be made to appear with a blue print.
These cars don't have thumbnails and are upgraded. (And Bel Air HS has special two-tone livery)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-21 00:06

All cars won by random wheelspins can be acquired if necessary from auction house. Untik then its best to leave them till end....at certain point almost anyone who plays game regularly should have them.

There is no need to feel rushed at all

-- Last edit: 2018-10-21 00:07:08

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-21 04:15

I hope no unicorn this time

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-22 17:21

So they get rid of all SS badges on Chevy Super Sport model,such as Camaro/Impala/El Camino/Chevelle....

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-10-22 17:32

ALMF-3512 wrote So they get rid of all SS badges on Chevy Super Sport model,such as Camaro/Impala/El Camino/Chevelle....


That's nothing new. They've been doing it since Xbox Live got released in Israel, and unless it gets pulled off of that country they're probably not going to stop.

-- Last edit: 2018-10-22 17:46:18

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-10-23 03:48

Guys, to help with listing, I'll leave the list link with all the pending models (some cars may not be available yet): 1drv.ms/w/s!AnxdCmZIVbZBkTiZ5vT2AQ_hNVF-

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-23 06:20

Anyone knows what's the Vandura Story edition?

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 07:08

Thanks all these cars have been accounted for on spreadsheet so most likely the person responsible for each entry will add final entry directly.
.unless anyone feels like they need to add placeholders

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 07:16

Attacker1997, if you want to do any cars please give us a heads up because almost all cars have been divided and given to certain parties.

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-10-23 07:21

Attacker1997 wrote Guys, to help with listing, I'll leave the list link with all the pending models (some cars may not be available yet): 1drv.ms/w/s!AnxdCmZIVbZBkTiZ5vT2AQ_hNVF-

It also has the 1993 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R

speedfreak975 wrote Attacker1997, if you want to do any cars please give us a heads up because almost all cars have been divided and given to certain parties.

Okay, I'll try to help as much as possible.

-- Last edit: 2018-10-23 07:26:28

Chesty KY (63)

2018-10-23 16:14

I will help

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 17:43

Thanks but no need weve got the numbers and everything worked out :)

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 19:07

All available autoshow cars have been added (placeholders)

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-10-23 20:16

Some upcoming Car Pass cars revealed:

10/26/2018

-2018 Ford Mustang GT Deberti Design
-2012 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Spyder Performante

11/02/2018

-1991 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Escort
-1977 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Pickup

11/09/2018

-2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio
-2018 Can-Am Maverick X RS Turbo R

11/16/2018

-2010 Vauxhall Insignia VXR
-2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo

-- Last edit: 2018-10-23 20:21:43

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 20:57

Link to the info?

AutoTracker US (214)

2018-10-23 20:59

The new update updated the Car Pass calendar. You should see them once your game is updated.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 21:01

Ah ok thanks

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-10-23 23:12

The exclusive forzathon cars are :
Week 1 : Hotwheels Twinmill
Week 2 : hotwheels Bone shaker
Week 3 : Community Choice (interesting)
Week 4 : Hoonicorn V2

Mad_Driver RU (77)

2018-10-24 01:46

AutoTracker wrote Some upcoming Car Pass cars revealed:

11/16/2018

-2010 Vauxhall Insignia VXR
-2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo


Waiting only for this one two awesome cars. Another returns from old Forzas, great!
Other cars in list a bit shiiiieeeet

RushCars24 ID (49)

2018-10-24 05:41

AutoTracker wrote Some upcoming Car Pass cars revealed:

11/09/2018

-2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio

Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio : Wait, I'm in? YAAAAAYY!!

Finally, a wish comes true! The Stelvio is coming!

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-10-24 07:37

Sadly Vaux are the only so-called British cars in the pack

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-24 10:48

solarriors wrote New Batch :
-Abarth 695
-Chevrolet Bel-Air Hoonigan
-Mazda RX8
-MINI Cooper JCW
-Nissan Titan
-Nissan ...R33
-Nissan ...R34
-SRT Viper
-VW Beettle
-VW Corrado

Traffic :
Tractor
Snowtruck
Ford Transit

Note :
VW Fox traffic back replaced
Audi TTS back replaced
BMW M3 E92 Front added
Ferrari 812 placeholder

I'll delete this message accordingly or feel free when photos update is done :)

Done
Nice pics BTW
Also, Mini isn't yours, Corrado was already uploaded by Attacker1997 and R34 is too dark to see anything

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-24 15:49

solarriors wrote It says the MINI JCW GP is mine, for the rest I just did what was in my list I haven't checked if Attacker did my cars. With For R34 the right brightness we can see something but I'll try to take the picture with more light again

Yeah JCW GP is yours, but you posted red JCW.
JCW GP only comes in dark grey color.

TheDriveress US (0)

2018-10-27 16:35

Am I the only one who noticed Rolls Royce is missing from the game? I was hoping to drive around in a Silver Shadow or Cullinan besides the Wraith and Dawn.

solarriors CH (8)

2018-10-28 13:49

I wrote it months ago...

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-30 12:24

Attacker1997 you aren't on the list. I don't know if I should accept your pics.

EDIT: I accepted your Twin Mill pic.


-- Last edit: 2018-10-30 12:49:09

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-31 15:36

Attacker do you read comments section?
You added Zenvo three times even if I told you that you need to consult other members who are adding pictures to see if they want to split adding pictures with you or other members.

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-10-31 17:45

Mark0 wrote Attacker do you read comments section?
You added Zenvo three times even if I told you that you need to consult other members who are adding pictures to see if they want to split adding pictures with you or other members.

Okay Mark0, I'm sorry. I hadn't read the comment session when I tried to add the Zenvo ST1. I will no longer add cars without permission

Mark0 RB (597)

2018-10-31 18:00

Attacker1997 wrote
Okay Mark0, I'm sorry. I hadn't read the comment session when I tried to add the Zenvo ST1. I will no longer add cars without permission

Just talk with guys who are in charge of Forza page. Maybe they can get you in on the list.

Andra SI (4)

2018-11-01 00:37

What's the PC version like? Does it work this time around, unlike FH3?

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-01 05:37

I had no issue on FH3 on PC after the Patch 2, it's very very well playable on high end machines.
I haven't tested yet on PC. I can only guess it's also playable
@Marko, @Attacker : The Hot Wheels cars are still not assigned. On my side he can do it.

-- Last edit: 2018-11-01 05:47:11

Andra SI (4)

2018-11-01 11:40

It ran fine for me until I got to the part where you unlock the first festival expansion. It kept crashing randomly after that.

-- Last edit: 2018-11-01 11:41:59

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-01 13:52

The PC port is terrible, nothing but crashes and sound bugs

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-11-01 14:06

The demo ran a lot better for me than FH3's.

Andra SI (4)

2018-11-01 14:07

The reason why I am so salty about it is because aquiring FH3 on PC was such a hassle for a frankly mediocre game. They don't sell any physical copies, the PC version is Windows Store exclusive. I had to make an account and because they don't accept PaySafe cards as payment, I had to borrow someone else's credit card information. Then, the game started crashing randomly when I could finally do stuff on my own. Luckily, because it was my first (and only) purchase from Microsoft, they refunded it as a first-time courtesy.

Now, I said it was "mediocre" - This is my honest opinion. After the above events, I bought a Logitech G920 racing wheel and wanted to try the game out with it, so I pirated a CODEX version. I can feel all the backlash coming for this, but anyway, the game does not take advantage of the full 900 degrees of steering lock and the clutch is reduntant as you can change gears without it and the car can't stall whatsoever. Then, the game started crashing, but now that I saw how underwelming the game actually is, I frankly could not care any more.

And they are still charging 50 € for it. What a joke...

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-01 16:55

Try the demo not a pirated copy, as they might have issue because of... Other reasons.
And try the demo anyways before buying.
The 900 degress thing you could have expected, it's a simcade not a full sim.
Otherwise I don't know. I shared an album with more than 200 photos and they were all taken on PC

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-01 17:51

solarriors wrote Try the demo not a pirated copy, as they might have issue because of... Other reasons.
And try the demo anyways before buying.

Well, the Demo ran absolutely fine for me whereas the full game crashes randomly and has sound issues.

I guess with 'Other reasons' you mean that it's illegal. I don't think he cares about that.

solarriors wrote The 900 degress thing you could have expected, it's a simcade not a full sim.

Sounds like the standard excuse for something not working the way it should. FM7 has full support for the Logitech G920, I see no reason why they dropped it for FH4.

solarriors wrote Otherwise I don't know. I shared an album with more than 200 photos and they were all taken on PC

And that hasn't got anything to do with his post.

-- Last edit: 2018-11-01 18:13:16

Andra SI (4)

2018-11-01 19:10

Both versions were crashing randomly. It's just a crappy PC port, apparently.

Like I said, I'm over it. I got my money back and I witnessed myself how uninspiring the game really is. I really don't feel like going through the Windows Store again for an overpriced, mediocre game that (likely) won't work properly.

I'll just wait for TDU Platinum to be released. :p

-- Last edit: 2018-11-01 19:19:48

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-01 19:43

@Zordid : What the photos have to do is that your mileage may vary. With the same piece of Software I have nowadays no issue. I'm not being a fanboy at all here

I didn't mean illegal. I meant tbere cohld be some hacked code with malware or glitching the exes..

Lastly Forza is being developped using the WUP. It's not even a port since it uses the same dll for executing.

Gagarsa06 MX (1)

2018-11-01 21:39

Zordid wrote The PC port is terrible, nothing but crashes and sound bugs

Andra wrote It kept crashing randomly after that.

Why?

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-01 22:09

Gagarsa06 wrote

Why?

How are we supposed to know why it crashes?

solarriors wrote What the photos have to do is that your mileage may vary. With the same piece of Software I have nowadays no issue. I'm not being a fanboy at all here

Ok? But you having no issue with the game doesn't automatically mean that everyone can run the game fine...

solarriors wrote I meant tbere cohld be some hacked code with malware or glitching the exes..

Unlikely, that would be too much work for most crackers. It could come bundled with malware which could make the game crash but that seems rather unlikely as well.

solarriors wrote Lastly Forza is being developped using the WUP. It's not even a port since it uses the same dll for executing.

Oh god... It's still a port since they still have to do optimizations for each platform, you couldn't just take the Xbox game and run it on your PC. They each have their own problems.

-- Last edit: 2018-11-01 22:30:12

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-02 01:25

New Season, new Batch ready.
It says the images are too big.
There are 11 Cars
1 FE Car
[EDIT]It's a message to the Admins

-- Last edit: 2018-11-02 13:42:03

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-02 12:50

solarriors wrote New Season, new Batch ready.
11 Cars
1 FE Car

Huh?

twingo FR (0)

2018-11-02 13:18

Zordid wrote
Huh?


I dont know either

Andra SI (4)

2018-11-02 14:43

Gagarsa06 wrote

Why?

I wish I knew! :lol:

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-04 15:04

Please bring XJ13 and new TVR in the future car pack,since it's British setting,they suits well

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-04 20:03

Just a heads up to update the cars :
1drv.ms/f/s!Auu3wXDct6V6jEUD1F0z-j5iMmNZ

Bumpercars45 AU (12)

2018-11-05 14:28

solarriors wrote Just a heads up to update the cars :
1drv.ms/f/s!Auu3wXDct6V6jEUD1F0z-j5iMmNZ

Nice work mate

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-06 09:30

I used some of my photos of FH2,3,4 as wallpapers. And printed some as postcards.
By the way, since I we don't have to own a car for doing exterior shots I think I can do them much faster.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-06 12:55

@solarriors
No its best to buy a car or if it was certain event. Because I'm not sure if polycount is differnet between player and Ai model.... and if their cars are visually stock paint and such

There is no rush. Once you buy the car do it

The page is large wont finish in days it will take months and thats very normal

Quality over quantity ...always

-- Last edit: 2018-11-06 13:13:35

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-06 13:45

I'm in PC Ultra sometimes. You can see from the shots with double cars (RX7, Acura RSX) they have the same quality with my settings. Also I disabled the Driavatars liveries. I don't know if you knew, but doing so make the drivatar spawn more different vehicles

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-06 13:55

Still its best to buy the car choose its color and location and time more options ....no shortcuts are needed.

Taking photos of Ai feels like hackjob its method used only when mandatory.

I see no reason doing so, when player himself can drive the cars



-- Last edit: 2018-11-06 14:00:03

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-11-06 14:35

Changing the subject, could you put me on the team list of photos on that page? Because I took some photos of Zenvo ST1, and as Mark0 said, I could only post them once I was officially on the list

-- Last edit: 2018-11-06 14:45:52

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-11-06 15:14

I agree with Speedfreak, there's no need to rush this.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-06 15:45

Almost over 95% of cars have been pre assigned to 4 members (martinbond,solarriors,Top Gear fan and myself) so im not sure what to say . If any of them want to share their assigned load sure but other than that there is no need.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-07 00:20

While the T10's FM series keep improving(for the crappy quality of FM7 at launch)PG's FH4 seems like a over the top mix of the previous Racing games,thus,I dont think PG has enough to top FH4 for next game,also,racing games today are not that popular or mainstream like 15 years ago,if PG keep getting pushed very hard on FH series,the quality will see a huge drop for next game.Since PG is good at summary not innovate.And that will be harder and harder as new game come by,with more and more game they summed.So,maybe FH4 will be the last good Horizon

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-07 00:40

Or next gen will simply allow them to go more in detail and much bigger world considering they almost added every major feature in a race game...its time to expand .....if its not borken dont fix it (formula)

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-07 07:09

Another problem (majorly)for Horizon—more brands refuse to join the car list,FH3 lacked VW,FM7 Toyota Sports and FH4 Mitsubishi/Rolls.The nation they can choose for next location become less and less,especially consider the highly requested Japan become mostly impossible for Mitsubishi and Toyota/Lexus quit the roaster

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-07 07:20

Thats not on their side at all. If brands are refusing to join thats on the brand behalf any developer isnt accountable. Also dont count Rolls out maybe they are doing what they did in FM5. Considering RR has some new models to promote

Plus game is in 2 years or more...overthinking about it now is futile



-- Last edit: 2018-11-07 07:35:41

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-08 22:46

speedfreak975 wrote Thats not on their side at all.

So far nobody's been able to prove to me that T10 is not responsible for this. There's supposedly a Toyota press release about it but I haven't found that yet.

And even if, it only proves it for Toyota's and Lexus' absence.

speedfreak975 wrote Also don't count Rolls out maybe they are doing what they did in FM5. Considering RR has some new models to promote

RR is owned by BMW (as you may know) and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't have allowed it into FH4. I mean RR were featured in FH3 and I can't really see what FH4 did differently to change BMW's mind.

-- Last edit: 2018-11-08 23:03:55

TrueCrime US (41)

2018-11-08 23:11

I can't even understand the reasoning why R-R isn't in FH4. They're the most beautiful British brand alongside Bentley. Could licensing problems have caused this?

It's also partially the same reason why Mitsubishi pulled out. They weren't doing well, and with their focus in SUV's like the Eclipse Cross, this shows they really want their appearances in racing games less.

The whole Toyota fiasco may have been either licensing issues or maybe they want too much money. :/

Even liveries have licensing problems, such as the Civic GRC in FH4 and the X-Bow GT4 in FM7, respectively.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-08 23:30

TrueCrime wrote I can't even understand the reasoning why R-R isn't in FH4. They're the most beautiful British brand alongside Bentley. Could licensing problems have caused this?

It's also partially the same reason why Mitsubishi pulled out. They weren't doing well, and with their focus in SUV's like the Eclipse Cross, this shows they really want their appearances in racing games less.

The whole Toyota fiasco may have been either licensing issues or maybe they want too much money. :/


Again, until somebody shows me proper evidence to support this I'm just going to assume that T10 is at fault. I'm not believing them anymore after they unrightfully blamed GM for the whole SS shit.

damianea103 PL (220)

2018-11-08 23:47

Zordid wrote

Again, until somebody shows me proper evidence to support this I'm just going to assume that T10 is at fault. I'm not believing them anymore after they unrightfully blamed GM for the whole SS shit.

What was that "ss" controversy about? I seem to have missed it :/

-- Last edit: 2018-11-08 23:47:43

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-09 00:13

damianea103 wrote
What was that "ss" controversy about? I seem to have missed it :/

Starting with FM6(?) all 'SS' symbols on GM vehicles were removed. According to T10, this was due to GM's 'naming strategy' or some shit.

Turns out that it's was because Xbox Live launched in Israel and because Nazi abbreviations trigger them and MS was afraid of being sued they censored it.

-- Last edit: 2018-11-09 00:13:53

TrueCrime US (41)

2018-11-09 00:16

All I can say is that this whole "SS" thing happened at some point while FH2 was getting updates. That game at launch had the badges intact. When the '88 Monte Carlo SS showed up in December 2014 it lacked the SS trim. When Forza Motorsport 6 went gold, all of the SS badging was gone. It not only affected Chevys, but Holden and even Toyota's Celica was affected. Not helping the fact that the global fairness excuse was a massive lie. We're not getting the SS trim anytime soon sadly.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-09 00:23

TrueCrime wrote All I can say is that this whole "SS" thing happened at some point while FH2 was getting updates. That game at launch had the badges intact. When the '88 Monte Carlo SS showed up in December 2014 it lacked the SS trim. When Forza Motorsport 6 went gold, all of the SS badging was gone. It not only affected Chevys, but Holden and even Toyota's Celica was affected. Not helping the fact that the global fairness excuse was a massive lie. We're not getting the SS trim anytime soon sadly.

Exactly, those excuses for Toyota/Mitsubishi not being in the game seem just as nonsensical to me as the global fairness or even the dieselgate thing that allegedly caused VW to be absent for one game...

-- Last edit: 2018-11-09 00:26:04

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-09 01:15

Videogames are pure advertisement for brands nowadays. The decisions are purely fiscal to major brands espacially ones that mass produce cars. How each developer reacts/deals to this new status is up to them. Blaming one party of equation a 100% is somewhat wrong

damianea103 PL (220)

2018-11-09 04:21

Zordid wrote
Starting with FM6(?) all 'SS' symbols on GM vehicles were removed. According to T10, this was due to GM's 'naming strategy' or some shit.

Turns out that it's was because Xbox Live launched in Israel and because Nazi abbreviations trigger them and MS was afraid of being sued they censored it.

Wow, what bs... why is it always so hard for companies to be honest

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-09 13:10

speedfreak975 wrote Videogames are pure advertisement for brands nowadays. The decisions are purely fiscal to major brands espacially ones that mass produce cars. How each developer reacts/deals to this new status is up to them. Blaming one party of equation a 100% is somewhat wrong

You still don't get it, do you?

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-09 14:36

Zordid wrote
You still don't get it, do you?

If i do or don't it wont really matter with all honesty this isnt 1st time... this topic will be 100% useless so I'm not gonna bother explaining my point of view or criticising yours because it wont lead to anything

-- Last edit: 2018-11-09 14:43:42

Speedevil BE (142)

2018-11-09 17:34

I'm pretty sure nobody would have given a shit about cars with SS in their names, it's just Xbox that was scared of getting sued.

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-11-10 03:40

Just a heads up to those taking photos for the game: Near the Edinburgh train station (across the road from the huge parking lot full of low-res X5M, vintage Mini Cooper, and Ford Fiesta prop models, IIRC), there's a building that has the side view of a van above some of it's doors.

The van appears to be a current generation Renault Master/Vauxhall Movano, probably could be listed as the Vauxhall, given the UK setting.

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-10 17:34

@carcrasher : Ok, will look that

TrueCrime US (41)

2018-11-11 00:45

Fortune Island expansion confirmed. There's a production Lamborghini Urus in the artwork.

carcrasher88 US (20)

2018-11-11 01:07

And, along with the recently released Hoonitruck and Escort Cosworth Group A, the other three vehicles from Gymkhana Ten (as well as The_Gymkhana_Files, a Prime Video exclusive behind the scenes series) will be coming to Horizon 4 as well, the newest iteration of the Hoonicorn, an updated Focus RS RX, and an M-Sport Fiesta.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-11 01:44

IRL Fortune Island is in Philippines,guess they just let go of the British setting,and go for somewhere with mountain roads and beautiful view

TrueCrime US (41)

2018-11-11 02:09

According to info, it'll be set in the northernmost British Isles. Also confirms dangerous weather and much more dangerous roads. This might be a expansion I might buy.

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-11 12:32

Really hoped for a normal map expansion without crazy weather stuff but we'll see. Cliffside roads and the long awaited mountain switchbacks look pretty good, though.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-11 13:50

I kinda like extremes weather situations. Storm island is still a favorite. I love those kind of challenges if we get back gauntlets. Loving the Cliffside roads and mountain roads also nothern lights. Interested to see how big map is and how seasons affect it

-- Last edit: 2018-11-11 13:52:06

Zordid DE (3)

2018-11-11 14:23

I wonder if there will be any snowfall on Fortune Island. Maybe even Blizzard Mountain-type weather?

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-12 12:22

If they continue the 4 season circle on the Island,then snow and ice are possible

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-15 02:23

Project One/Valkyrie/Griffith 2018 were found in early files,possibly cut

-- Last edit: 2018-11-15 03:00:50

Attacker1997 BR (76)

2018-11-15 04:55

ALMF-3512 wrote Project One/Valkyrie/Griffith 2018 were found in early files,possibly cut

Or, coming in future DLCs

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-16 05:14

Gymkhana 10 cars added in FH4...Though most are just new livery of existing cars

MTP02 PL (3)

2018-11-17 23:46

I wonder what are next Car Pass vehicles after the Vauxhalls or the 21-week period ended.

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-18 02:46

Probably duplicates from cars we already updated with a new "skin" aka livery.

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-18 04:50

Honestly,I don't think FH4 can still be great after about 2 month of update.In FH4,PG focused too much on things that aren't racing in a RAC game.They added season circle(Which largely restrict the choice of cars)They add business(Which only few,and feels like a cheap copy of TDU)As for car pack cars that are British....Well,I admit the TR3A is nice(yet a return)and the next pack just use Vauxhall as British part(I can accept VX220,but a Regal?Also,return)Then there's the British Racing Green part,PG called it a taste of British car histoy lesson(while it is a documentary,the contents are really superficial)I feel that maybe(just maybe)the next Horizon will destroy the brand and Playground in a deep way.As I stated before,Playground added copycat of TDU's business part,the game itself feels like a blend of TDU+PGR+CMR(not suprise as ex-Codemasters are in PG)Another big trouble is the reducing car list.I know Toyota only give Forza the off-roaders(they are good)Mitsubishi out of the list this time.But,they fail to make the list more British.What they are doing most is recycling old models from FM3/4 time.I admit Austin FX4 is a great new car,and they use a very British Senna as cover car.But as a British setting game,I didn't see more AM,MG,AH(most are recycle cars from FM3/4)And when I know the Fortune Island DLC(Which is like a revival of Storm Island from FH2,which set in European areas)The whole game(with its DLC)feels like a FH2 HD Remaster—Europaen setting,with first DLC named after a fictional island,and the lack of enough local cars(FH2 DLC does put a fair number of Italian cars,but French?)now all PG need to do is make the 2nd DLC tie with a movie,then it is a full Remaster of FH2(which to me I prefer to play the real FH2,since it's still focus on cars racing than multiplayer games)

solarriors CH (8)

2018-11-18 12:07

The Horizon games are mostly "remasters" with a new map, updated features, and refreshed car list.
It lacks some important features to be a TDU2 clone.
The car list in not getting smaller, but I agree it gets too much US focused especially too much US competitions and Hoonigan. The DLC is very mediocre

-- Last edit: 2018-11-18 23:58:39

ALMF-3512 CN (0)

2018-11-19 10:19

Speak of new map,I guess they will stay in Europe and America for future games,Aussie has been done in an American view in FH3,Asia in general can't happen without major brands like Toyota and Mitsubishi,South America can't provide enough car culture(Which FH series start to get superfical with)and MS refuse to remaster previous game,so HD version of old entry wont happen.And that's the problem.MS wants the game to evolve and innovate with each game,however PG is good at conclude existing game rather than do things in its own way,therefore,less and less game for PG to conclude as new games come out.And that's why I think FH series may end with FH4(or FH5 if they do set in Japan,to meet most players' need)PG doesnt have its own stuff,and with FH4's house setting and clothes dressing...PG has made FH4 more of a RPG game than pure racing game.And that may lead to the end of FH series.Which in the end,the game doesn't focus on racing or cars anymore.Just a RPG that you can also driving and racing.

speedfreak975 LB (188)

2018-11-19 10:53

Fh1 got 4k texture treatment (HD)
..but they didnt update car license and music hence cant be bought if you didnt acquire it when it was available you can't have it

-- Last edit: 2018-11-19 10:55:01

Add a comment

You must login to post comments...